^^^^^ lol what he said...I think Im gonna go with the jammin...Ive driven a friend of mines hellfire and its cool and all but I think the jammin will do better on the track. HPI seems to fade out thire cars after a few years and parts get hard to come by after all look at the hyper 7, how long has it been around.....forever. Thats what I like about OFNA and traxxas look at the nitro stampede....I had one of those ten years ago lol.....Yep thats it I got it figured out Im gonna run the Jammin,REVO and the MBX 4,the wife is gonna run the Hyper 7 pcr.......Thanks guys