RE: Lets discuss P-Factor
Flyboy and Bill,
I actually got it now. I kept comparing a spinning prop to the rotor disc of a helicopter, but I forgot that the when cyclic input is given to a heli rotor disc, it changes attitude, and that is why gyroscopic precession is in play al the time there. Once the heli is in forward flight, or the rotor disc is tilted, the cyclic is removed, and the stick is back at neutral.
Flyboy, your explanation about the tail dragger yawing is also absolutely how I percieve it to happen, since the airplane is putting a force to the rotor disc as the tail raises, the resulting force is a yaw, because gyroscopic precession makes the force happen 90 deg later.
Guys, I can't tell you how happy I am that I finally see the light. I see now that I totally forgot about change in attitude of the disc in one scenarion, and no change in the other, and that's the bid deciding factor.
Again, thanks yall.
DKjens