Ryan Archer,

That's why I prefer XTR. Kick the speed up to 120% and it's very realistic (read difficult), and things like flatspins are not easy to get right. The Hover/torque roll training is very cool, great practice. Let's you select which controls you want to manage, and auto controls the ones you don't work. So, you can just run rudder, rudder/ele, etc. It's neat. There are a lot of "artificial" planes in XTR too, particularly the downloads... but there are a few that are very real and really keep you on your toes.