I would hope that no one here condones stealing of ANY kind. I guess it's viewed as trolling when you appear to be trying to start up the fight again. I don't know who is right in this case, but maybe you could just start a new thread to discuss this. I for one do NOT need planes that badly that I'd use ones that were stolen. If this turns out to be the case, I will delete them imediately, and help spread the word. I don't pretend to know copyright law, but I can't see how you could prove that Rick's planes are copies w/o the wireframe data to support that. Would it not be the same thing other people are doing when they copy a plane for Reflex or AFPD? Or maybe I'm missing something?

Edit: Well my message makes little sense now that STL deleted his, but I'll leave for now. STL will know.