Interesting,searched this entire thread for the word "harrier" and nothing comes up??!! I know this plane will hover, but will it Harrier??? I'm putting my .46 back into the air,it wouldn't(I couldnt)harrier then but I'm going to use what I learned with the .60 to try one more time for full 3D with the .46. I posted the info on the .60 thread. I'm going to continue to use the Saito 1.00, I beveled the wing trailing edges for about 60 deg. throw and will set up my radio to use most of that throw for harriers only. It worked wonders on my 2d .60 Do, hoping to have more fun with the .46. If it works I will have figured out what the "fat" wings need to harrier without rocking at all. Anyone doing harriers with the .46??