Had one more outing to practice rolling harriers before the weather shut us down. Its getting better with each try,really have to work on the timing & visual co-ordination,throttle moments especially tricky. Its pretty awesome when things are clicking,goes bad in a hurry when not.I can see its going to take practice-practice-practice like a mental patient. Maybe this summer....rolling harriers on the deck.....For me, 3D has to be an obsession or else I'll never get there,might not anyway but even just a little progress keeps me going. Cant wait till Spring..........BTW,this thread is dying along with the Giant UCD,come on Do lovers every where,chime in on one of the most popular planes ever..lands like a trainer,does some pattern,IMAC,sport flying,3-D,& some unknowns too.