Ok I will forge on anyhow. The retracts I am looking at are the same size as the Robart, and who know I might go crazy my LHS has the complete Robart system with lines valves etc for 120. I have to go down there tomorrow; I might go suddenly crazy. Bob I know how you feel I work out of the basement and it starts to feel a bit nippy down there.
Cheers from Maryland
Patrick