RE: Flat-outs
They are a good airplane. I have one of the Turmoil's and it flies really well. The hinges seem to be were everyone has some problems. If your not careful they can break. I found the best way to solve that problem was to side the hinges onto the carbon rods and then glue them into place. I would say that the flatout would be a good choice for some who has flown both a three and four channel airplane. If your still interested in buying one you could aways find someone to help you if you really want one bad.
Bevo