RC30GTR, do you not think people have the right to feel a little let down if the forum they subscribe to is labelled 'direct manufacturer support for your cen vehicle'? Nobody is *****ing about it, with so little distributor/ lhs support, this is one of the few places CEN owners can have specific questions answered. If the manufacturer is not replying now, there are bound to be a few owners who will lose faith in the brand. You would also be amazed at how few of the people here are 'kids'.