ORIGINAL: cyclops2
Piper chuck. Your first paragraph is the solution.
Your 2 nd paragraph walks all over the first.
It always comes down to giving problem planes and pilots equal rights.
Huh? I thought my first paragraph was the problem and the second, part of the solution. Oh, wait a minute, do you mean my first
post and my second
post?
There is no such thing as a "problem plane", only problem pilots.

None of us have a right to make so much noise that it disturbs others. Many who have attempted to flaunt this imagined, but in reality, non-existant right have discovered how unimportant our hobby is to many people.