Sure, that's it, we've been doing this too long. A very small minority manages to learn to fly on their own with a sim and suddenly anyone who suggests that method is less than ideal is giving outdated information. As I've said, there's much more to flying than one can get with as sim. While some can learn this way, it's less than ideal, and way more fail tham succeed. Most people understand the value of learning from experience. Others feel they need to rediscover things on their own. Oh well, to each his own.