Go Back  RCU Forums > Electric Aircraft Universe > 3D Electric Flying!
Reload this Page >

Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

Notices
3D Electric Flying! Discuss all aspects of Electric 3D RC flying here!

Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

Old 11-15-2003, 02:44 PM
  #1  
Ian.W
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ian.W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Essex, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 4,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

?????

Im seriously thinking of making a 3DX. The GWS setup would proberbly be fine but brushless would give that extra sparkle! Is there any cheepr alternatives to the Haker BS20 w/ 4:1 geerbox and a controler?

Thanks
-ian
Old 11-15-2003, 03:24 PM
  #2  
ChuckAuger
Senior Member
My Feedback: (12)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Pampa, TX
Posts: 5,133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

Ian, you can put a Himax brushless in the GWS gearbox for about 1/2 of what a Hacker will set you back. I don't know if Himax is available ocross the pond, but hey are now down to $49 here (http://www.rc-dymond.com/ they are not listed on the website, you have to call) for the motor. For the best performance you will still need the expensive lipo/charger to keep the power up and weight down IMHO. I am running the Himax 2015 4100 in a GWS D gear, 12X6 (11X4.7 here in about 5 minutes!) 3S Lipo plane and love it. If you get the 2S lipo, you could get a 2015 5400. I don't have any experience with that set up.

These planes are the bomb. Hope you get something working!!
Old 11-15-2003, 04:03 PM
  #3  
Ian.W
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ian.W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Essex, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 4,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

Can you charge Li-pos on a Li-on charger
Old 11-15-2003, 05:19 PM
  #4  
ChuckAuger
Senior Member
My Feedback: (12)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Pampa, TX
Posts: 5,133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

I don't think so, but I'm surely no authority. These are fairly dangerous batteries, I would make sure before trying.
Old 11-15-2003, 06:15 PM
  #5  
rmh
Senior Member
 
rmh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: , UT
Posts: 12,630
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

I have both the Hacker B20 S 22 and 26 setups on GWS D drives -
Also have the Himax on C drive (4100)-it takes a 10 x6 ---10x4.7 etc--
All the combos are not yet tried --but the Himax is not inferior in any way - at the moment.
For the bargain of the month -- get a Himax 4100 on a D drive - 3 Lipos and a 50 buck charger.
Old 11-15-2003, 06:22 PM
  #6  
mglavin
My Feedback: (31)
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Elverta, CA
Posts: 5,295
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

ORIGINAL: edible_engine

Can you charge Li-pos on a Li-on charger

Yes, a Li-ion charge will work on the appropriate cell count Li-poly cells... What specific charger do you have?
Old 11-15-2003, 06:41 PM
  #7  
ChuckAuger
Senior Member
My Feedback: (12)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Pampa, TX
Posts: 5,133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

ORIGINAL: dick Hanson

I have both the Hacker B20 S 22 and 26 setups on GWS D drives -
Also have the Himax on C drive (4100)-it takes a 10 x6 ---10x4.7 etc--
All the combos are not yet tried --but the Himax is not inferior in any way - at the moment.
For the bargain of the month -- get a Himax 4100 on a D drive - 3 Lipos and a 50 buck charger.
I just slammed 3 1200 packs thru my Himax, and I love it even more! I ran the 11X4.7 on the D drive. It was underpropped, but made for great hovering. I still think the 12X6 is a better prop for all around aerobatics/3D, but the 11X4.7 made hovering authority (for a wanker like me!) a lot better.

Dick..I was the whole time thinking how the 11X4.7 and some more prop speed like C gears would be massively awesome...
Old 11-16-2003, 07:25 AM
  #8  
Ian.W
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ian.W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Essex, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 4,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

ORIGINAL: mglavin

ORIGINAL: edible_engine

Can you charge Li-pos on a Li-on charger

Yes, a Li-ion charge will work on the appropriate cell count Li-poly cells... What specific charger do you have?

None at the moment. I have eventually found a place in england which sells Li-pos. The charger itself is 50 pounds and the cells are only 21 for a 3 cell. I also found a 7.2 volt li-on charger for 20 pounds. Will ths charger which is ment for Li-ons charge the kokam (wot ever there name is) Li-pos.

How much is the Himax motor and do you rekon theyed ship it over this side of the pond for a reasonable price?

Is there a specific Li-Po/Brushless ESC????

If youve got any more info on Li-po/brushless setups please tell me

cheers
-ian
Old 11-16-2003, 10:59 AM
  #9  
rmh
Senior Member
 
rmh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: , UT
Posts: 12,630
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Is there any cheeper brushless alternative motors to the Haker 20

My Himax 4100 on the APC11x7 and--TWO cell Kokam1500 HD-- is really quite good -
I tried that combo yesterday eve - and the rip snorting performance was not there - but it hovered -recovered - flew vertical snap -with on line recovery - Very pleased ,as that is a workable precision aerobatic setup
I flew both the Hackers on D drives also -in the morning - and they were excellent --except the 3 cell setups faded fast - so I will re think how much MAX amperage I can draw
It seems if I have more Max draw available - I tend to use it .
So I will regear and prop for a max draw --which delivers 17 ozs of thrust -on 3 cells- I was setup for 22+ ounces of thrust.
That setup goes very quickly.
for just hovering, a lower pitch is fine .
My 5400 motor arrives tomorrow -and it goes on a D drive .
I will put the one Hacker back on a B setup --Hacker sells em at 4:1 gear setups. (their gearbox).
Having all four motors on the GWS drive and the little pin disconnects - makes testing in the air - very easy - One screw - three plugins and away we go again.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.