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Old 03-26-2005 | 04:00 PM
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Is there any indoor plane that can take the throne of the shocky yet?
Old 03-26-2005 | 04:43 PM
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never knew it had the throne
Old 03-26-2005 | 05:08 PM
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Nope, lol Just by my name would you expect a differnet answer?
Old 03-26-2005 | 07:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: myvwtruck

Nope, lol Just by my name would you expect a differnet answer?
Your name is myvwtruck? Does not compute.......
Old 03-26-2005 | 09:10 PM
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The only foamie I feel that flies as well, not counting the hundreds of one off foamies that others designed would be the Tensor 4D. It flies just completely different from any other plane I've had, and in a good way.
Old 03-26-2005 | 09:28 PM
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That was my sons response and he did not realize he was logged in as me his screen name is shockflyerkid101 that should clear it up for you
Old 03-26-2005 | 11:59 PM
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Th F3A is a dead ringer for the Knuffel -and we have a bunch of those also - in sizes ranging from a smaller one ounce airframe (true) to the 115% 4.9 oz airframes for outdoor whacking about with a 20/20L Hacker. (AUW 12 ozs)
The Knuffel outflies the original shockies - and flies like the F3A Shocky -only more responsive - the horizontal stab is back a bit further .
The Tensor?
well that works great indoors but for outdoor flying - a bit too limber .
It is in my book , totally different in response to the monoplanes like the Shock Flyers and our Knuffels .
The new Shockflyers are really a terrific value - great flyers also.
Old 03-27-2005 | 07:35 PM
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Dick Hanson,

I have downloaded the Knuffel plans from Slowfly World and have a question. The dimensions of my printed out plans do not match the stated dimensions of the finished model. Is there a way to get them to print in the right size or do I need to take them to Kinkos and have them enlarged or are the plans correct?

Thanks for your help.
Old 03-27-2005 | 08:56 PM
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at 100% it is correct on my machine -there is a cm scale on the drawing
check your print setup
we have them in 100/112/and 115%
the 112% in 3mm foam lightly, correctly braced ,is simply incredible in very slow speed flight
wing loading is under 4 oz sq/ft.
We used a Hacker 34s on it and 35 0 /480 packs in 3 cell and 730 in two cell-with larger (9x3.8 apc)
the std size uses the air world 20 mm CDRom (the 19.95 one ) all up under 6 ozs.
Old 03-27-2005 | 11:20 PM
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www.3dfoamy.com will come out with a line of completely redesigned kits along with a line of mini kits from what I see on the site.
Old 03-28-2005 | 02:05 AM
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Hello all,

I have been flying the prototypes of the new 3D Foamy mini kits. We have shot alota video i need to go over it and edit it but i will have it up in the next few days. All i can say is shock flyer sales will be droping off.....(IMO) More to come...
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The new line from Great Planes will capture a lot of the market
They have the resources to make and include a complete fittings package.
These planes are basically printed foam and injection molded plastic - both very inexpensive to produce -once tooling is ready.
From my own experience - the new flyers want -and will get- models which can be done at the dinner table in a few hours .
For those who are able to do a little more - the original concept of cutting from foam is still a great option -
the time from new to "obsolete" is becoming a matter of weeks now .
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Great Planes has also started kicking some new techniques off that will give Ikarus a run for the money. Their new biplane "reflection" is using a new method of attaching the ailerons to the wing. Instead of tape as most foamies use, they've gone to a new carbon fiber/plastic hinge system. Hopefully this will eliminate some of the long standing problems with foam planes. TAPE SUCKS.

As far as anyone dethroning Ikarus....not yet, but the time is coming. They're getting some pretty stiff competition, and its only a matter of time.
Old 03-28-2005 | 03:00 PM
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The tape we use - no one ever mentions -and it works best -
why ? you can apply it to a broken foam - rub some foam safe CA into it - drip on some kicker and instant rock hard fix
also the tape is extremely flexible -light and sticks
we hinge everything with it.
3M Micropore
It is used in medical applications such as taping bandages to skin.
Old 03-28-2005 | 04:04 PM
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Is that stuff different than Blenderm?

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Old 03-28-2005 | 09:01 PM
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No- Blenderm is a soft film (plastic)
This is a fibrous paper - with lower tack
It is the best patch stuff going tho -when we build flat foam stuff - we use this where a CF rod intersects the foam - first - apply a small piece of tape - Peirce the tape with a pointed tool and shove in the CF rod--then add a drop of CA --wiggle the rod in the socket -which spreads the ca into the tape and foam -then add a drop of activator .
the tape costs 50 cents a roll for 1/2" wide
I buy lots of it .
Old 03-28-2005 | 11:27 PM
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Default RE: Succeedor to ShockFlter

Whats a "Succeedor"?
Old 03-29-2005 | 12:24 AM
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I believe it is a suksesser
Old 03-29-2005 | 02:07 PM
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I think he meant "Successor" = as in the prince is to the king.
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ORIGINAL: dick Hanson

No- Blenderm is a soft film (plastic)
This is a fibrous paper - with lower tack
It is the best patch stuff going tho -when we build flat foam stuff - we use this where a CF rod intersects the foam - first - apply a small piece of tape - Peirce the tape with a pointed tool and shove in the CF rod--then add a drop of CA --wiggle the rod in the socket -which spreads the ca into the tape and foam -then add a drop of activator .
the tape costs 50 cents a roll for 1/2" wide
I buy lots of it .

Where do you buy it, the pharmacy?

Wiz

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