40 size cap 232 ??? E-conversion
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http://www.texasrcplanes.com/cap23240.html
This is the plane that I am thinking of getting. I am going to convert it to electric. I have a 50x55mm 600kv 950watt motor and 5000mah 5s lipos.
Well I have only been flying parksized warbirds(all overpowered 180w to 200w pr lb) Except for a 50 sized mustang that I built( had serious issues with the plane but I could still fly it well)
Well Like I said I have only been flying warbirds and I have been seeing some 3d videos and all I can say is WOW I never thought a plane could do that kind of stuff. SO I would like to try this my self but dont know if I should start with something so big or should I buy a park sized on first? Also are 3d planes harder to fly that a warbird and can they also handle speed ?
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry I am very nervouse about getting into something new so I want to get as much info as possable!
Thanks in advance,
MATT
This is the plane that I am thinking of getting. I am going to convert it to electric. I have a 50x55mm 600kv 950watt motor and 5000mah 5s lipos.
Well I have only been flying parksized warbirds(all overpowered 180w to 200w pr lb) Except for a 50 sized mustang that I built( had serious issues with the plane but I could still fly it well)
Well Like I said I have only been flying warbirds and I have been seeing some 3d videos and all I can say is WOW I never thought a plane could do that kind of stuff. SO I would like to try this my self but dont know if I should start with something so big or should I buy a park sized on first? Also are 3d planes harder to fly that a warbird and can they also handle speed ?
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry I am very nervouse about getting into something new so I want to get as much info as possable!
Thanks in advance,
MATT
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Now, you really need to know the AUW of this plane, if you want to fly 3D with her. I would say why not go with a 50"+ EP ready plane rather than this one, not sure if this plane is light, from the pics she looks like your average 40 sized GP plane and it might be heavy. They may say light enough for EP conversion but what amounts to light enough?
I just finished a conversion of a 40 sized sport plane and she has enough power to hang even at about 5.75 lbs. Of course the plane is not made to hang. Have a look here:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6491866/tm.htm
My set up was cheap. Motors can be had from www.2dogrc.com.
I just finished a conversion of a 40 sized sport plane and she has enough power to hang even at about 5.75 lbs. Of course the plane is not made to hang. Have a look here:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6491866/tm.htm
My set up was cheap. Motors can be had from www.2dogrc.com.
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I guess I will call the company to find out what the weight of the plane is and measure my stuff that I am gouing to put in it. About what weight range should I be looking to stay in? What are some good ep 50+ inch planes???
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Look around for planes like:
Extreme Flight Extra 300
Fliton Andrew Jesky
Both are in the 50"+ class. It would be nice to fly as they are not as 'small' as the 47" class planes but not as expensive for the power set up for typical 40 sized EP planes.
Extreme Flight Extra 300
Fliton Andrew Jesky
Both are in the 50"+ class. It would be nice to fly as they are not as 'small' as the 47" class planes but not as expensive for the power set up for typical 40 sized EP planes.

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I will check them out . Thanks (I already have the power set up and it looks like it would fit into the extream flight extra) I guess am going to look into it further too
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First things first. You want to find the best flying glow bird available, and then go for the conversion. Elect. gear today is outstanding, you should end up with more usable power with the electric. Right now, the only 40 glow I have glying is the mojo, a outstanding 3d-r. Would anticipate a conversion to be equally as good, but a pain.
Do have a couple of the new-great 50" or so birds out, the Fliton AJ Extra 330S, like TIANci mentioned, and the Performance Specialities Katana MD. Both these birds are outstanding flyers, and I love them to death. First time in 2-3 years I leave the RCX planes foamy at home in favor of another airplane. Yes, if you can fly a war bird, you can fly one of these things wirth ease, just go to low rates at first and you have a great trainer. 3D airplanes by their very nature of light construction are easially damaged. They also fly so much better than past birds, its easy to get a little overconfident. Go with the recommended gear with either plane and you can't go wrong. These two little guys think they are big birds and fly like the much larger aircraft, very unsuual for a little electric, and have now set a standard for excellence that few will be able to match. Go for either the Extra or Katana, you will be more than pleased. ENJOY
First things first. You want to find the best flying glow bird available, and then go for the conversion. Elect. gear today is outstanding, you should end up with more usable power with the electric. Right now, the only 40 glow I have glying is the mojo, a outstanding 3d-r. Would anticipate a conversion to be equally as good, but a pain.
Do have a couple of the new-great 50" or so birds out, the Fliton AJ Extra 330S, like TIANci mentioned, and the Performance Specialities Katana MD. Both these birds are outstanding flyers, and I love them to death. First time in 2-3 years I leave the RCX planes foamy at home in favor of another airplane. Yes, if you can fly a war bird, you can fly one of these things wirth ease, just go to low rates at first and you have a great trainer. 3D airplanes by their very nature of light construction are easially damaged. They also fly so much better than past birds, its easy to get a little overconfident. Go with the recommended gear with either plane and you can't go wrong. These two little guys think they are big birds and fly like the much larger aircraft, very unsuual for a little electric, and have now set a standard for excellence that few will be able to match. Go for either the Extra or Katana, you will be more than pleased. ENJOY
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mycarisaser:
First things first. You want to find the best flying glow bird available, and then go for the conversion. Elect. gear today is outstanding, you should end up with more usable power with the electric. Right now, the only 40 glow I have glying is the mojo, a outstanding 3d-r. Would anticipate a conversion to be equally as good, but a pain.
Do have a couple of the new-great 50" or so birds out, the Fliton AJ Extra 330S, like TIANci mentioned, and the Performance Specialities Katana MD. Both these birds are outstanding flyers, and I love them to death. First time in 2-3 years I leave the RCX planes foamy at home in favor of another airplane. Yes, if you can fly a war bird, you can fly one of these things wirth ease, just go to low rates at first and you have a great trainer. 3D airplanes by their very nature of light construction are easially damaged. They also fly so much better than past birds, its easy to get a little overconfident. Go with the recommended gear with either plane and you can't go wrong. These two little guys think they are big birds and fly like the much larger aircraft, very unsuual for a little electric, and have now set a standard for excellence that few will be able to match. Go for either the Extra or Katana, you will be more than pleased. ENJOY
mycarisaser:
First things first. You want to find the best flying glow bird available, and then go for the conversion. Elect. gear today is outstanding, you should end up with more usable power with the electric. Right now, the only 40 glow I have glying is the mojo, a outstanding 3d-r. Would anticipate a conversion to be equally as good, but a pain.
Do have a couple of the new-great 50" or so birds out, the Fliton AJ Extra 330S, like TIANci mentioned, and the Performance Specialities Katana MD. Both these birds are outstanding flyers, and I love them to death. First time in 2-3 years I leave the RCX planes foamy at home in favor of another airplane. Yes, if you can fly a war bird, you can fly one of these things wirth ease, just go to low rates at first and you have a great trainer. 3D airplanes by their very nature of light construction are easially damaged. They also fly so much better than past birds, its easy to get a little overconfident. Go with the recommended gear with either plane and you can't go wrong. These two little guys think they are big birds and fly like the much larger aircraft, very unsuual for a little electric, and have now set a standard for excellence that few will be able to match. Go for either the Extra or Katana, you will be more than pleased. ENJOY
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There is a very big difference of a plane designed to be a trainer and a 3d-r. You need to get your hands on a decent little foamy, something about the size of the equipment you are running so you can use existing batteries, etc. IF FEASABLE. I have seen plans for home made stuff on the net that would let you build a foamy cheep, but you need to do some research there. You must have decent motor-ECU and batteries to 3d, otherwise you'r spinning your wheels. There is some currently very good relatively cheep equipment currently available I'm not famaliar with since time for me is limited. Getting way too old, eyesight is geting bad etc. Simply am not going to spend my limited time of enjoyment on that kind of stuff unless forced to do so. Hand with the 3-d electric guys, several should be able to stear you toward some good stuff cheep. ENJOY
There is a very big difference of a plane designed to be a trainer and a 3d-r. You need to get your hands on a decent little foamy, something about the size of the equipment you are running so you can use existing batteries, etc. IF FEASABLE. I have seen plans for home made stuff on the net that would let you build a foamy cheep, but you need to do some research there. You must have decent motor-ECU and batteries to 3d, otherwise you'r spinning your wheels. There is some currently very good relatively cheep equipment currently available I'm not famaliar with since time for me is limited. Getting way too old, eyesight is geting bad etc. Simply am not going to spend my limited time of enjoyment on that kind of stuff unless forced to do so. Hand with the 3-d electric guys, several should be able to stear you toward some good stuff cheep. ENJOY
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Honestly Thats what I was thinking of doing but was unsure if there was a differance in ease of flying between the sizes. I have flown a few aerobatic war birds with out any issues but I didnt know what to expect from a 3d plane. I have a good 50 size electric motor and good thunderpower & hyperion batteries. Thats the reason why I wanted to build a plane of this size. I also have a few 200 to 250watt motors and batteries too. So building a small one would be easy enough too.
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The trend to larger aircraft in the past few years has been driven by the quality of flight of the big birds, and also to some extent I think by the visual ease of seeing what is going on. A good 3=d pilot has learned to correct things before a change of attitude will be noticed by most watching. Something you develop with time and experience. There is some outstanding airplanes available to us today theat were unheard of not long ago. There are outstanding 40% down to shock flyer foamys. I have yet to fly a descent 3-d airplane that did not fly like a trainer on low rates. If its too quick for you at the moment, dial in some more expo until you get used to it. My current favorite size airplane is driven by convenience and has been scaleing down from the larger gas airplanes to atound 50" wing spans. The guys call, can throw 2-3 smaller birds in the back of the van with all the gear in place and just pull them out and fly when I get to the field. A 30-40 pound airplane spinning a huge prop is flat tough on this old man. When and if you get into your 70's, you will understand. There are great flying little guys like the AJ Extra 330L and Katana MD, rcx planes allure or Yak 54 foamys that I know from ownership that will delight almost anyone. There are a number of others but I don't have personel experience with. Do some research as to the best birds and their size and try to match your existing gear. The RCU "Conversion" bunch seems to be a decent start. Gotta Go. ENJOY



