Hey guys,
Maybe, I missed something. But what happen
to the popularity of the Giles. I realize
the Edge has better 3-D characteristics,
but I've noticed that it's been suggested that
the Giles not be used as 3-D machines. I don't
own a Edge(as yet), but I do have a 27% Giles
that I plan enlarge the control surfaces and
set for 45 degree deflection.

Shouldn't I be able to do 3-D manuevers
with the Giles just as good as the Edge
performs 3-D?

Thanks,
Adrian

I am not sure where you got that a Giles will not 3D. I have a 42% Godfrey 202 that does a great job. Many TOC pilots used the Giles 202 several years ago. I think the Edge is more popular now because it is the newest of the standard aerobatic planes. You get tired of the same old thing so you change planes, designs, etc. Each pilot picks his plane for many reasons. Jason Schulman does not like the way an Edge flies, but is just his personal opinion. The Extra is more popular for smooth percision flying because it is longer. The Edge is more popular for 3D because it is short coupled. The same could be said for the Giles 202 vs the Giles 300.

Go ahead with your set up. It should do fine. Is this the Midwest kit? If so, watch the weight. I have only seen one fly, but it was heavy.

Good question. From what I gather, most people think that Edges are a little more stable in 3d type manuvers (ex. a Harrier) than say an Extra of similar size. This is because of (I think) the straight leading edge. Conversly, the Giles' leading edge is greatly swept in comparison to the Extras', meaning (again, I think) it would be less stable in 3d manuvers. This seems to be correct b/c the few Giles at our field seem eager to spin (tip stall easily), whereas you just about have to force an Edge to spin. Anyway, to answer you question: yes, a Giles should be able to do the same manuvers that an Edge (or Extra or Cap, etc) does, you just may have to "get on the sicks" more and be more cautious.

Of course that's just my opinion...

I think a g-202 would do better pattern than 3d with the fusealage being as long as the wings which helps it track strait... but then again i dont know for sure.

Thanks for all the replies. I did not wish to imply that the Giles could not 3-D, but there
have been several threads that implyed that the
Giles was not a good 3-D machine. The reason for
my asking why the Giles popularity dropped off
is that for years before the Giles and Edges were
popular, the Extra was and still is quite popular
with many fliers. I thought perhaps someone has discovered some nasty characteristics about the Giles. This is my first Giles and before I put a
lot of work into it I wanted some back ground.
PS. This is the R/C America kit.

Adrian

it will do fine, a lot of the flying depends on the pilot... thats all

Go for the Giles. A good flying design yesterday is still a good flying desing today. The RC aerobatics crowd is about as fickle as it gets, and a lot of them suffer from the 'latest=greatest' affliction.

All these planes are based on full scale aerobats and bring many of the same characteristics with them. Look at the last (2000) world aerobatics championships. Won by a Cap 232 (yet again). Top 10 positions were ALL Cap 232's and Sukhoi 31's, even 5/5 split. Kirby Chambliss managed to bring in an Edge 540 in 14th.

All the currently modelled aerobats (Cap, Giles, Extra, Sukhoi...) are capable of most anything set up right and flown by a capable pilot.