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Old 09-08-2013, 03:00 PM
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Hi everyone.

Well I have been in to this hobby for 15 plus years, do all aspects of it. I really enjoy flying. I have fly all type, electric, nitro, gas. I love the bigger stuff, I fly a GP giant big stik with 40cc engine, and a GP Revolver 70 with a DLE 20 on it. I am a good pilot, and want to get into 3D more. I am looking to get a 3D foamy plane to play with, then incorporate that into larger planes as I get better and more confident.


I want a foamy 3D that can be flown outside, in a small area if need be. Something tuff also. My electrics now use 3S lipos 1500-2200mah, would like to be in that battery range.

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George
Old 09-08-2013, 04:28 PM
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Like you, I've been flying an assortment of 'stuff' a while too. A year ago, I had a similar urge to the one you're talking about. I had been pushing my gassers to the point a lot of guys I fly with thought the Rev 70 was a 3D plane? And I had been breaking them as well, but I was hooked. I wanted to know more about 3D, but on a bit more of a budget?

Here's where I ended up after a lot of research:
http://www.nitroplanes.com/02a-004-swift-epp-kit.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/02a-008-1...d-epp-kit.html

A year later, I've accumulated a huge amount of stick time (take the landing gear off and they work great on snow and ice!), I've broken both planes countless times, and I'm still VERY happy with my choices. Oh, and I fly these 20 times for every time I get a gasser out any more.

They're perfect on 15-1800mah 3s batts, OK on 2200's, especially the larger Swift, but they can't be over about 105mm long. The EPP is perfect for learning as it's tough and very easily repaired when you break it. Regular CA works fine, doesn't melt the stuff. There's forums dedicated to both of these out there. Not as big as the Revolver one, but plenty to get you going in the right direction. Google them or PM your email.

These fly easily in winds up to about 10mph. You can fly in higher, but you'll be fighting them, and you'll need a pretty good size yard, or be a pretty good flyer to fly in a smaller one. Give yourself some room at first!

Holler if you decide to go this way. I can give you a hand with the electronics, including cheap metal gear servos, that will let you get either of these in the air very reasonably - with stuff that's not going to break or bend every time you crash. That lets you stay pretty ballsy down low and close in with much less fear of encounters of the ground kind? Mine have grass stains on both wing tips, top and bottom of the rudder and of course the front end. It looks like a prop tip with an entire season on it..... -Al

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Old 09-08-2013, 04:45 PM
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Thanks for your info and ideas, I will be honest though I have always tried to avoid, nitro planes, banana hobby, etc... 90% of what I have seen, heard, etc is junk. I do not like buying junk.

For the prices though, might be worth a try. I like the looks of these two.
http://www.nitroplanes.com/02a-008-1...d-epp-arf.html ARF 100.00
http://www.nitroplanes.com/02a-007-y...d-epp-arf.html ARF 80.00

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George
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I get the hesitation. Used to be the same way. If you have an open mind, do some research. Look for comments from the guys flying them.

The baby (37") Yak has some pretty high wing loading. Good aerobatic, but re: the high alpha stuff, maybe not so good?

The 47" Swift is available as an ARF as well.

The Techone ARFs come with servos that will need to be replaced fairly soon, and motors that are.....OK. That's why I'm suggesting the kits? The plan is to keep the plane as cheap as you can using disposable parts. A whacked 6.00 servo doesn't need replacement gears, you just get a replacement servo? If you break the plane in half, you glue it back together until you can't stand looking at it any more, then you buy another one for 50.00?

HK has a line of motors in the 15.00 range that have 5mm shafts. Nearly indestructible. Mine are a year old, I've broken dozens of props but I've never bent a shaft yet. They still run great.

HK (if you'd rather get your plane there?) has a plane similar to the 1100mm Yak. It's still built by Techone, but it's like a first generation with smaller control surfaces. Still a good flyer though, especially in the wind.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__20111__Hobbyking_Yak_55_3D_1096mm_EPP_ARF_USA_Wa rehouse_.html?strSearch=yak%205




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Buy a crack yak
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Crack yaks can't handle wind.
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I really enjoy my Juka from DWFoamies. It is a little small for the battery you mentioned but can be flown outside and in a small area. I use a 3S 1350 on mine. They do have some larger and smaller planes and this is a profile. But if learning to 3D is your main goal and appearance is secondary I would like hard at these.

David
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You might take a look at this new product even though it is smaller than what you have indicated. More pricey than Banana or King, but owners love them. At least you will be entertained for about 4 minutes!! LOL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro-Pxsa_kDY

Also from the same company a larger and definitely more wind capable (up to say 15 mph wind) 3D machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlU6hktKeV0
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Try Fancy Foam
Old 09-10-2013, 05:40 PM
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If anyone is selling anything BNF or PNP of what I am looking for please let me know.

Thanks
George

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