Graupner Showflyer
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I am getting ready to buy my first 3D plane.
Originally, I decided on a TopCap or MTK, but Morris is out of both.
I would like an ARF, and ideally, something that one doesn't see at the flying field all the time.
The Showflyer fits the above criteria and Texas 3D had one and seemed to like it.
Anyone else have any experience with this plane, If not, do you have any other recommendations?
Thanks!
Mike
Originally, I decided on a TopCap or MTK, but Morris is out of both.
I would like an ARF, and ideally, something that one doesn't see at the flying field all the time.
The Showflyer fits the above criteria and Texas 3D had one and seemed to like it.
Anyone else have any experience with this plane, If not, do you have any other recommendations?
Thanks!
Mike
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Hi Outssider,
I am looking for my first 3D plane and am wondering two things:
1) Is the Showflyer suffuciently docile at low rates with expo for a relatively inexperienced pilot?
2) Once I become profient at 3D manoeuvers, how will perform compared to planes like the Flip 3D or Morris Sledge?
Oh, and one more - will it be durable enough to handle some rough landings, etc. until I become more proficient.
Thanks for your help.
Mike
I am looking for my first 3D plane and am wondering two things:
1) Is the Showflyer suffuciently docile at low rates with expo for a relatively inexperienced pilot?
2) Once I become profient at 3D manoeuvers, how will perform compared to planes like the Flip 3D or Morris Sledge?
Oh, and one more - will it be durable enough to handle some rough landings, etc. until I become more proficient.
Thanks for your help.
Mike
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1....yes
2....i don't have, or have i flown the Flip 3D or Morris Sledge so can't compare. what exactly do you want to do with it ? no 3d plane is perfect, some planes do certain maneuvers well while others do other maneuvers well .......if you want to make this plane dance...you will need at least the power that a saito 100 makes.
this plane is built light....... that's what your paying $$ for.....it is strong considering how lightly built it is but it is not designed for hard landings !!! it is very easy to land this plane softly every time but if you are not confident in your landing skills, this is not a good plane to practice landings with !!!!
2....i don't have, or have i flown the Flip 3D or Morris Sledge so can't compare. what exactly do you want to do with it ? no 3d plane is perfect, some planes do certain maneuvers well while others do other maneuvers well .......if you want to make this plane dance...you will need at least the power that a saito 100 makes.
this plane is built light....... that's what your paying $$ for.....it is strong considering how lightly built it is but it is not designed for hard landings !!! it is very easy to land this plane softly every time but if you are not confident in your landing skills, this is not a good plane to practice landings with !!!!
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Outssider,
I am looking for a good jack-of-all-trades 3D plane that will help me to become a better pilot. One that can hover, harrier, spin, knife edge, etc., but isn't so touchy that I will have difficulty controlling it during normal flight. Since I have only flown a couple of different planes, the first few landings may be a little rough, but I am more concerned about it holding up to a newbie learning to harrier into a landing, etc.
Don't have to worry about crashes though, because I'd never do that.
From what I have gathered reading the RCU archives, is that the Showflyer is an excellent combination of the above, but would like confirmation before forking over $349 of my moderately hard-earned income. If you think there is a better plane for my situation, I am open to suggestions.
Should the best plane for my needs be a UCD or something like it, so be it. I would really like something a little more unique, if possible.
Mike
I am looking for a good jack-of-all-trades 3D plane that will help me to become a better pilot. One that can hover, harrier, spin, knife edge, etc., but isn't so touchy that I will have difficulty controlling it during normal flight. Since I have only flown a couple of different planes, the first few landings may be a little rough, but I am more concerned about it holding up to a newbie learning to harrier into a landing, etc.
Don't have to worry about crashes though, because I'd never do that.

From what I have gathered reading the RCU archives, is that the Showflyer is an excellent combination of the above, but would like confirmation before forking over $349 of my moderately hard-earned income. If you think there is a better plane for my situation, I am open to suggestions.
Should the best plane for my needs be a UCD or something like it, so be it. I would really like something a little more unique, if possible.
Mike
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I have not been able to get this plane to harrier.....can't get rid of the wing rocking !
if you balance it very tail-heavy it will do a very slow fly-by with the nose pitched up at about a 30 degree angle but that is not a harrier !!
it seems to do every other 3d maneuver pretty well.....it will hover all day long provided there is no wind ( if there is a wind, the plane will blow the plane away from you eventually)
doesn't seem to torque-roll, just hangs in the air, sometimes it twists a little clockwise and sometimes it twists counterclockwise.
inverted climbing flat-spin is probably what it does easiest/best. upright flat spin is a bit harder to get it to do but is possible.
the plane can be set up to fly very slow and predictably with low rates.
if you balance it very tail-heavy it will do a very slow fly-by with the nose pitched up at about a 30 degree angle but that is not a harrier !!
it seems to do every other 3d maneuver pretty well.....it will hover all day long provided there is no wind ( if there is a wind, the plane will blow the plane away from you eventually)
doesn't seem to torque-roll, just hangs in the air, sometimes it twists a little clockwise and sometimes it twists counterclockwise.
inverted climbing flat-spin is probably what it does easiest/best. upright flat spin is a bit harder to get it to do but is possible.
the plane can be set up to fly very slow and predictably with low rates.
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Outssider,
Sounds like a great plane.
I have received a handful of recommendations that I fly a profile before getting this one. I am trying to find a Morris The Knife ARF. I really like the Showflyer and both you and Texas 3D have given glowing endorsements of it. If I can't find the MTK in stock anywhere I may get a CG Ex-Treme 330 before the Showflyer.
Thanks for all your help.
Mike
Sounds like a great plane.
I have received a handful of recommendations that I fly a profile before getting this one. I am trying to find a Morris The Knife ARF. I really like the Showflyer and both you and Texas 3D have given glowing endorsements of it. If I can't find the MTK in stock anywhere I may get a CG Ex-Treme 330 before the Showflyer.
Thanks for all your help.
Mike



