Formula 3D flutter trouble!
#1
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Hi folks,
I've been flying my new Modeltech Formula 3d over the last couple of weekends, and am finding that I need to be real careful not to get elevator flutter, I know it's not designed for speed, but sometimes I can barely get it fast enough to knife edge without it fluttering. I'm using the supplied hardware and standard servos on 4.8v.
Another guy at the field who flies a Hype had a go and commented on the same thing. He also checked out the linkages and didn't think there was any more free-play than on his Hype that is also using standard servos.
Suggestions?
Chris
I've been flying my new Modeltech Formula 3d over the last couple of weekends, and am finding that I need to be real careful not to get elevator flutter, I know it's not designed for speed, but sometimes I can barely get it fast enough to knife edge without it fluttering. I'm using the supplied hardware and standard servos on 4.8v.
Another guy at the field who flies a Hype had a go and commented on the same thing. He also checked out the linkages and didn't think there was any more free-play than on his Hype that is also using standard servos.
Suggestions?
Chris
#2
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: chatsworth,
CA
yes. first of all, i would reccomend 6v for your standard servos unless you want to go digital or something. see, analog servos will allow more flutter than digital servos will because analog servos will just give a set amount of resistance, depending on how far off it is. if it is just a little bit off center, it wont give it much resistance which saves energy but when there is enough force to keep it from getting back to center, that is a problem. your problem is that you are getting flutter because the flutter is not huge radical movements so the servos dont put up much of a fuss as far as trying to control it. my personal reccomendation is, if you dont want to spend a bunch of money on digitals, than go 6v and increase your mechanical advantage over the elevator as in move the control horn to the very top of the threads if you have that kind of control horn. if not, dont worry about it and just go to 6v.
#3
Senior Member
My Feedback: (1)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: CamborneCornwall, UNITED KINGDOM
what you wanna do is give the plane to me 
set the ATV to max and play with the links till you get the movement required, that way you've got more servo movement for less surface movement, also more precise.
other than that join me and Carters in the prophang game, go low pitch and fly those KE's on power not aerodynamics

set the ATV to max and play with the links till you get the movement required, that way you've got more servo movement for less surface movement, also more precise.
other than that join me and Carters in the prophang game, go low pitch and fly those KE's on power not aerodynamics
#4
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 716
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: England, UNITED KINGDOM
ORIGINAL: chris-s
..... I'm using the supplied hardware and standard servos on 4.8v.
Suggestions?
Chris
..... I'm using the supplied hardware and standard servos on 4.8v.
Suggestions?
Chris
..that Formula is probabally looking to take a bite out of you when you walk past.[:-]..for insulting it with STANDARD servo's @ 4.8v...oik yourself off to Inwwods and get thyself some Digitals...please
... see Inwoods " Deal 122 "..
#5
Senior Member
My Feedback: (1)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: CamborneCornwall, UNITED KINGDOM
might as well wait till Woody then, they should be there.
i always find it strange that the Magnum flys ok with plastic links and 148's, try that on another plane and you'll be crying. i'm sure the Hype flys just great on 148's, maybe 3001's, but on Chris's Formula... noooooo..
i think this flutter is more than just standard servos on 4.8v.
Capiche FF wing on 3001's btw, flys fast and with no flutter or blow back that i see.
i always find it strange that the Magnum flys ok with plastic links and 148's, try that on another plane and you'll be crying. i'm sure the Hype flys just great on 148's, maybe 3001's, but on Chris's Formula... noooooo..
i think this flutter is more than just standard servos on 4.8v.
Capiche FF wing on 3001's btw, flys fast and with no flutter or blow back that i see.
#6
Member
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: MidWales UK, UNITED KINGDOM
Chris,
Couple of questions for you.
The Formula's finished weight with the OS 70, ? (dry no fuel)
Your running APC 13x4 W, is there clearance for APC15x4W on the oem undercarriage ?
TY
Xup.......................... anyone going to Weston park this weekend guys ?[8D]
Couple of questions for you.
The Formula's finished weight with the OS 70, ? (dry no fuel)
Your running APC 13x4 W, is there clearance for APC15x4W on the oem undercarriage ?
TY
Xup.......................... anyone going to Weston park this weekend guys ?[8D]
#7
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,885
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Pretoria, SOUTH AFRICA
I don't quite get it guys. I can fly my funtana WOT with the 61 on it with JR 539 BB servos in it. Ok the 539 is a 4.7kg servo though and well quite honestly cheap. I pay R130 for a STD servo where as the 539 is R180. This is on normal 4.8v and the 539s are much faster than a STD servo. Ok I gotta admit one other thing I have Great planes ball link connectors with 4-40 rods on the back.



