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Old 08-09-2002 | 05:00 AM
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

I'd like to start learning how to do a rolling circle. I've seen them, but am not sure of the proper sequence of stick movements. Could someone run through the pattern using stick movements for me? I'd sure like to start practicing.
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Old 08-09-2002 | 10:55 AM
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

Check out the September issue of "R/C Report" - Ed Moorman's "Maneuver of the Month" is the rolling circle. Has the basic stick movements and some illustrations to go along with it. Pretty good starting point.

Good luck - one of my favorite maneuvers.... need to start working on variations - rolling to the outside of the circle vs the inside, reversing the direction of the circle.... lots of variations possible.

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Practice 4 point rolls first, then move on to slow (and I mean slow) rolls. This will give you the basic stick movements.

Once you have this mastered, practice them on 90 degree lines (directly away and directly toward you).

My rolling circle is basically several slow rolls strung together with a touch of elevator and rudder in each of the four points to scribe the circle. I spent a fair bit of sim time to train the motor response....
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I am by no means an expert, nor do I fly pattern. I do fly rolling circles, rolling 8s and am working on rolling loops. I have my aileron low rates set for a fairly slow roll, about 2 seconds per roll at medium aircraft speed. I do most of my rolling circles rolling right and turning left.

To roll right and turn left, starting from upright.
Full right aileron(LOW RATE), left rudder, as the plane rolls to knife edge start adding down elevator (push), and easing off rudder, as the plane rolls to inverted start adding right rudder, and easing off down elevator, as the plane rolls to knife edge start adding up elevator (pull) and easing off rudder, Back to upright left rudder.

left rudder

down elevator (push)

right rudder

up elevator

left, push, right, pull, left, push, right, pull,left, push, right, pull

Start up high, and away from the croud, doing only one roll with the elevator and rudder commands, when you get used to doing one turning roll, do two, then three, then four, and so on.
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

What I have done is practice slow rolls with rudder and elevator correction. While I don't hold a straight line, I can do it the length of the runway. As far as the circle, I don't correct for heading and let it drift through the circle. It is uncontrolled and sometime I do 4 circles and some time I do 6 circles. After I get the circles down and flat, I will work on timing. I know this may not be the proper way, but it works for me.
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how do you set up rolling circles with an avistar w/40la ?
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Like you set up to give a cat a bath.....
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

Is there any websites you guys know of that talk about how to execute a rolling circle?
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

this months r/c report magazine,has an article with pictures on how to do rolling cir, local hobby shop should have some for sale.
Old 08-10-2002 | 08:36 PM
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Default Rolling Circle

You can get my whole column on rolling circles in the September issue of RC Report magazine, one of the advertisers here on RC Universe. The column is called Fun Aerobatics and it is specifically for NON-pattern fliers learning acro.

AS for the rolling circle, there are a few points to teaching yourself.
1. Roll to the inside of the circle. If you circle left, roll left.
2. Don't try to do a specific number of rolls, just get through it.
3. Slow down the roll rate. You can't get the elevator in is you can't follow the rolls. Slow roll rate.
4. Slow the plane down at first. This slows the maneuver and lets you see and learn.
5. Use elevator only for correction. Leter on, when you can do one pretty well, you can think about using rudder.
6. Watch for the inward bank, then give it some elevator, either up or down depending on whether you are upright or inverted. This turns the plane in the circle.

That's the quick and dirty. Start it like a thru and watch for the inward bank. Slo-o-ow down.
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

Well, I noticed the post and thought it's something that keeps coming up, so i made this page;

http://www.aeroforce.co.uk/Maneuvers...ed/rolling.htm ... sorry about that lack of detail, hope it may help a bit though!!

As for the rest of you, check out www.aeroforce.co.uk If you have comments email them or make a new thread, so's not to fill this one up with website rubbish!!

Ps: Ed_Moorman has just about got every detail you need there, well done!!
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

PS: My Irvine Tutor 40 (well it's my dads, but it's fun!!) does a great rolling circle flat out with full aileron, very smooth and controllable, but it has a semi sym. aerofoil, unlike most trainers! So there's the answer with your avistar, build half a wing and glue it to the bottom!!
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Default Will someone walk me through a rolling circle?

Hi Ed_Moorman,
Really enjoy reading your column every month,if this praise will get you more money, then show it to Gordon.Keep up the great work.

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