Hey guys it is gettin cold here in North Carolina, and with winter coming I was wanting some ideas for a small little project I for a long time have wanted a UCANDO .46 and have seen the newer Saito .82 I was wondering if this combination would be good, I have heard that the Saito has gobbs of power, but anyway let me know if anyone out there has had this combo or let me know you experience with the UcanDo .46 and your reviews of it..

I have a .82 in my UCD......i think it's a good combo, the .82 has alot of power for that size plane so you don't want to run it at full throttle for normal flight.

I use a APC 14x4w prop and hovering is no problem, it will also pull out of the hover. It will also fly very slow if you want and come in for a gentle landing. Take off on the runway only needs about 10-15 and it's off in the air. I'm not an expert flyer but flying this thing makes me feel like i've been in this hobby for years. With the expo on my radio i've been able to slowly get use to the plane and now i have it where i have expo on just the ailerons.

I think you'll like the como so give it a try : )

At what throttle setting on the actual motor does it hover half or 3/4's or what, and does it pull out lazy or does it yank out of the hover,,,,

I've had 3 UCD46. All have had the Saito 82. I fly at 4800' elevation. I use a APC 14x4W prop. I use 30% heli fuel. This is a great combination. It will "rocket" out of a hover if you want. More than enough power anywhere you want it. I love these planes but I keep crashing them because I try to hard to do stuff I'm not capable of. I have another on the way right now. The plane is so easy to fly. I have my CG at 5 5/8". It hovers well there and does wonderful flat spins, especially inverted. The Saito will fly for 15 minutes on a 10 oz tank of fuel with reserve left. I love this combo. I try to build the plane as light as possible. My last one weighed 5 lbs 14 oz with NiHD battery, 1350mA, and digital servos, HS5625 in the tail and HS645 on the ailerons. I have found this plane is easy to develop flutter on the surfaces if you're not careful. My answer is to use high torque servos and I use carbon fiber push rods from Cental Hobbies. This really stiffens the controls and I have had any flutter problems since I've went to this set up. But you still need to MANAGE the throttle. You cannot fly these planes fast. They will not take it. Anyways, Saito 82 with UCD46, doesn't get any better than this.
Thanks,
Barry

A 72 flies it pretty good so a 82 should be better. The 72 will hover it and will pull out with safety, but it ain't no rocket ship. Plenty of power to hover - waterfall - hover without loosing altitude. All that said, I sure liked the one I had a Saito 100 better, in every respect except fuel use.

Ed m.

i use 20% fuel, it doesn't rocket out of a hover but i think you'll be happy with it. I think it hovers around half throttle, i never really thought about it much i just do it.

Another thing I thought of, be sure and open the bottom of the cowl, way open, for cooling. The engine can tend to overhead if you don't have enough air flow. This will cause a change in jetting which reduces engine power and cause more heat. A visious circle if you will. I learned this right off the bat, but I'm amazed that many people try to keep the cowls closed, I guess for looks, but it really effects engine performance. With the cowl cut for maximum air flow I've never had ANY heating problems, evening when hovering.
Good Luck,
Barry

I have.....uhhhh had a UCD 46 with a new saito .72 in it an it was a dream to fly. I spent almost every night after work, working on it for about two months. It was my second plane ever to fly after my alpha 40 trainer. I went out to the field one night about two weeks ago just to see how the horizontal balance was by just hopping it off the ground and then setting it back down. It didn't really go all as planned. I got it up to speed, it came off the ground and I chopped the throttle then it came back down and bounced lightly and went for the sky. I could do nothing but give it throttle to keep it from stalling out and crashing so I let her go to the skies. This plane flys so well!!! (i'm comparing this UCD to my alpha BTW) Did not want to do anything but fly strait and level until I got used to it so i't was not in the air for very long. It ran out of fuel and I came in for a dead-stick to a better than perfect landing. The next day I had someone else do a second maiden on it and it ended up loosing the horizontal stab and going strait in from about 300 feet up. Total loss.

What I wanted to say here is this is an excellent plane to fly, looks great and looks to do some kool 3D stuff. I had mine setup with a saito .72, 14X4 PRO ZINGER, alum spinner, 6.0v-1600ma battery under the fuel tank, HS5625 on rudder, HS635 karbonite on all other surfaces, 4-40 control rods with du-bro ball links, and no wheel pants. I balanced it @ 5-1/4 inch from LE. Weighed in at 6lb's, 1oz and it would pull out of a hover pretty well but with an .82 I would think it would do a little better. I will build another one shortly. I just haven't got the $$$$ to buy another since I spent it all on this crashed one.

The moral of my story is you might want to think about putting some sort of fly wire or bracing on the tail. I have seen others talk on here that they haven't used wires or bracing and have had more than 100 flights. Maybe I got a bad stab or something. I'm real sure it didn't flutter but then again, it was quite a ways away from us when we saw pieces flying off.

sorry to say anything about this plane that will change your mind about it but I'm far from saying anything is wrong with the UCD. It's a wonderful plane that you will enjoy for a long time.

LATER


Joe

Mine has a Saito 91.14x6 APC prop.20/20 fuel.I am at 5000 ft elevation and she rocks.6o flights and the tail is fine-you just have to watch how you use the throttle on these birds.Flutter is a killer.The 82 would fly this setup great.

well guys I am at 284 ft above sea level so it should make great power on some 15% Sig fuel, building the plane will be a snap, I just wanted to be sure about the power issues,,,,,,,,

I have the UCD powered with a Saito 100. I realize its over powered but after seeing a couple UCD's flying with this combination at fly ins I felt this was the combination for me. It turned out I made the right choice. I have over 50 flights and due to the excess power I experience no over heating problems. Our field elevation is about 700 ft and I use 15% nitro. It has unlimited verticle but the caution is, and as mention in other replys the UCD is not intended for fast flight. It is built light and to some degree is fragil. The control surfaces are large and at high speeds can exert destructing forces. In summary I think for most pilots, the Saito .82 would be a good choice for the 40 size UCD and you'll be happy with it. Let us know how you make out.
K.O.

I've got a Saito .91 I am thinkin about stickin in a UCD 46.. Not sure about the 82 or the 91..

I would recommend using a Pro Zinger 15x4 on the Saito 82 for UCD 40. I tached this combo on 20/20 fuel and it peaked at 9600 rpm. Static thrust is about 9+ lb, as experienced by my uncalibrated arm.

I do know that this engine will swing APC 15x4W at about the same RPM, but will have greater thrust, maybe 10+ lb. But I am not sure about the spool up. The 15x4W is a little heavy for even the Saito 91 to spool up quickly.

For reference, Saito 91 pulling APC 15x4W @ 10200 rpm measured 11 lb. static thrust.
Saito 72 pulling APC 14x4W @ 9800 rpm measured 8.5 lb. static thrust.

Keep your plane under 5.5 lb, and it will be great combo.

The Saito .91 will fly it fine. You'll have to remember to fly all straight level, spins etc at half throttle. Thats what I do and I'm having a good time. The neat thing about flying the airplane slow during manuvers is if you make a mistake you have time to correct.
Good luck
K.O.

I just ordered my third one.... First flew for about 8 months when on a super smooth landing the gear broke out and went through the wing. I was flying it slightly modified with a Super Tiger .75 2 stroke. Great Planes sent me a new airplane, they have the best customer service in my opinion, and in the second one I fiberglassed the landing gearblock and firewall, put in a Saito .91 and high dollar fast servos with the rudder being push pull. Flew great for the one flight it lived when the battery came loose and she went in. NOW tower has them for $149, take off $15 for my $150 discount and free shipping to boot and I get it for $134!!!! Still have all the radio gear and engine, guess I'll be smart and tie all the battery connections this time!!!!!

Tower now has them for $139.00. Hope you're 3rd one works out for you. If I happen to total mine I will probably get the .60 size and put in a Saito 120. Until then I'll enjoy what I have. Winter is starting to show it's presence and my flying will be limited till spring. One of the down side to living in the mid west. I chose the .40 size because everyone I talked to claimed it was a better performer than the .60 size. I had a friend that has a .60 size, fly mine and he thinks they fly about the same. A matter of preference to some people. Maybe I'm not experienced enough to knoe the difference. I'm sold on this plane because its so much more forgiving compared to a Laser, Sukoi, or similiar high performer. Let me know how you make out with the 3rd. one.
K.O.

Well guys I turned in my official Santa Claus list to my mother and I put down the Saito .82 I had thought about the Saito 100 but I figured it to be to big, I thought that the .82 would be a close fit,,,,,,,

I hope you get some replies. I have been looking at the same combo.

jongurley
You will be happy with the Saito .82. I have the 100 but I also realize its way over powered. I hope santa makes you wish come true. Remamber even with the .82 it will be over powered so watch high speed maunuvers. You ]will get control flutter and that can lead to disaster. With a 14 or 15 " prop and 15% nitro you will have the time of your life. Good luck.
K.O.

I hope so K.O. I will take it easy on the speed, I was looking at buying a 2.6m Composite ARF extra in the spring, I mainly wanted this UCANDO to practice alittle hovering etc,etc, I have been flying abunch on Ikarus's Aerofly Pro simulator and have gotten pretty good a torque rolling, I realize this isn't the real thing but it helps with getting control inputs tuned in....

Just won a UCD 46 on Ebay and hope to put a Saito 72 in it. Can't wait to fly it. Looks like a blast!!

Maybe I will get mine in about 3 weeks I am getting alittle edgey,,,, I can't wait to fly it;;