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Old 09-11-2002 | 08:33 PM
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I was just wonder if there was documented maneuvers for flying 3-D say on a website,book or maybe a video. No one flies 3-D around my field or not regularly anyway. I was just looking for some place to start. Thanks for any info. Ken
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Do a search in this forum. There are articles by Mike McConville on 3D. Good place to start is the Elevator, probably the easiest thing to do. You can never get too much practice with the rudder either....
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Old 09-12-2002 | 02:05 PM
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Thanks guys...I will do the search. I usally just lurk around and read everyone elses posts and not post myself...and I always forget about the search... They put it there for a reason huh...
Thanks for the info. If anyone eles has some I'll take it. Later
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http://www.horizonhobby.com/articles/1022.asp
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Old 09-13-2002 | 04:07 AM
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About the Harrier directions listed in the horizon hobby link:

How to do it:

At near stall airspeed, up high, slowly feed in up elevator until you have the full 3D rate up in it. With low throttle, the CAP will fall like a rock. To guide it around, use the rudder, not ailerons. Just keep the wings level. Add power to change the plane's altitude.


What most people will get from those instructions will be: Feed in up elevator until you have the full 3D rate up in it. The maneuver will look nice for a second or two and then one of your wings will head for the ground. Time to recover and try again.

Too bad he doesn't mention anything like, "Why does the left/right wing drop like a brick when you start the decent."

Is there a better guide out there?
Old 09-13-2002 | 05:19 AM
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i think that the clue is to feed less elev and more throtle when stalled...
Old 09-13-2002 | 12:04 PM
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Thanks for the info. It's a place to start. Atleast I know some of the terms now. Now its time to get lots of pratice in. Ken
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you will have to sqeeze all the words together.
www . down on the deck . com


For some reason RCU won't let his site be mentioned here. If I type in the words for his site they get edited out automaticly.

Looks on the left side of page for differant videos. So far he has the best videos I have found on the web.
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after a brief visit to the above mentioned site my wall paper went haywire!
I had to delete my cookies and that solved the problem.
My be a windows thing, I don't know.
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I have the wing dropping problem also. I dont feel that it has been adequately addressed by the experts. Maybe their planes dont have the problem.

I would like more explanation of how to avoid the tipstall in the elevator.

by the way-i am flying a morris sudukoi.
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Hi all,
I had exactly the same problem and thought it was just my plane then all of a sudden i could do harriers, heres how... (my opinion)
when the wing drops try to catch it with the rudder...very simple but it works...be smooth though otherwise the other wing will drop

Another way to get into a harrier (my favourite) is do a stall turn (i think you lot call it a hammerhead) then once the models pointing at the ground pull in full 3D rates and it should go into a harrier/elevator without dropping a wing . Make sure you have height and don't let the speed build up too much in the vertical.

Have fun and good luck, hope this helps a little

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