40 size 3d monster?
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I've been flying electrics for awhile and now I'm considering getting something with wet fuel. What would be an awesome flying 40-60 size ARF that is stable, precise, and capable of freaky 3d?? Is the Funtana 40 any good?
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The Funtana 40 and 90 are excellent aircraft. Due to their lightness and stability, they can be flown by anyone with some experience. On low rates, easy to fly, easy to land. But, when one goes to high rates, it can be flown as wild as anyone would want.
A Saito 82 would be ideal on the 40 Funtana, or, a 120 on the 90 size.
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A Saito 82 would be ideal on the 40 Funtana, or, a 120 on the 90 size.
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no.. it wouldn't perform well on a 50 engine.. i had a 90 on mine... and it still need power ( maybe at our altitude..we need it).. and the Funtana 40 is VERY pitch sensitive.. i would recommend the HARRIER 90.. i've seen this thing perform and i can get it at the same price as the FUNTANA 40. as for engine for it.. u can use a saito 120 or 100 if you are at sea level.. hope this helps
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From: Post Falls Idaho
I have a friend who bought my Old funtana 40, i ran a 82 on it, hes running an LA 46 [X(] Believe it or not it actully flys, im not saying he can 3D it it will full throttle Hover hehe, but a 50 OS would do just fine as long as your below about 4000 ft
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From: Mira Mesa, CA
The OS-50SX is a LOT more powerful than the LA and noticeably stronger than the 46FX/AX- I would bet it'd get you out of a hover but not quickly enough [X(]
Stable, precise and capable of freaky 3D are almost opposites by nature- a properly set-up Funtana could be stable and precise, but to make it freaky 3D would mean WAY overpowering it
, moving the CG pretty tail-heavy and cranking the throws as far as they go- All good things but this makes the airplane less-stable.
My Funtana-40 has a Supertigre G-90 2 cy. 15x4 prop. and I have 140% travel everywhere I can get it-
The UCD-46 is more stable than the Funtana "generally" because of the longer tail-moment (distance between the wing and tail-) but again it is the set-up as much as the design-
The best freaky 3D planes are profiles, because while ugly, they fly awesome!
Stable, precise and capable of freaky 3D are almost opposites by nature- a properly set-up Funtana could be stable and precise, but to make it freaky 3D would mean WAY overpowering it
, moving the CG pretty tail-heavy and cranking the throws as far as they go- All good things but this makes the airplane less-stable.My Funtana-40 has a Supertigre G-90 2 cy. 15x4 prop. and I have 140% travel everywhere I can get it-
The UCD-46 is more stable than the Funtana "generally" because of the longer tail-moment (distance between the wing and tail-) but again it is the set-up as much as the design-
The best freaky 3D planes are profiles, because while ugly, they fly awesome!
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From: Kennett Square,
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the words 3d monster go hand in hand with a 40 size profile, check out www.ohiomodelplanes.com , the yak and edge 47 are very nice planes, and do some crazy stuff on standard servos and a .46 with 12x4 apc prop (i think it is actually 12.25x3.75W)...
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From: Pretoria, SOUTH AFRICA
You want something that can't be gotten. Well not easily at least. You asked specifically for a .40 sized plane and that promted the profile suggestion. If you want the whole eye candy/precision and monster 3D thing it's nice and easy. Get a 100" Quiqui somenzini Yak with a DA 100 and monster radio rig. Now that will give you the whole package.

Otherwise you need to go up to .90 size rather. Then you can maybe look at OMP's Fushion F90 which will is a monster at both precision and 3D and it looks great (Even for a profile). Or then from there you are going to the Harrier and those.

Otherwise you need to go up to .90 size rather. Then you can maybe look at OMP's Fushion F90 which will is a monster at both precision and 3D and it looks great (Even for a profile). Or then from there you are going to the Harrier and those.
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From: Pretoria, SOUTH AFRICA
Yup if you got a YS 1.10 or something similar lying around (Read I don't have much knowledge of the showtime) then it might be the ticket for you to look at. There is a thread in here on it so go check it out.
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From: nairn, UNITED KINGDOM
If you want a nice lookin plane in the forty size, that 3d's on a OS50, then you want either a Weston UK Groove Freestyle or a YT Freestyle Rush. Do a search in the 3d forums, there's threads here on both.
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The Kangke Fun 50 will do what you are looking for. I have an OS 65LA in mine and it is a lot of fun. It would be even better with a 90 four stroke but the 65 is just over 100 bucks.
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yea, if you don't want a profile, there is nothing that is going to 3d very good until you step up to the 90 size... Sure, a saito 82 on a funtana 40 would be nice, but not as good as a 90 size 3d ship as far as being nice/stable/precise/etc AND capable of some crazy stuff
I thought I didn't want a profile either, but I had all the equipment to make it work just sitting around... So I picked one up and now I love em... they don't look bad in the air, and the bang for the buck is awesome...
I thought I didn't want a profile either, but I had all the equipment to make it work just sitting around... So I picked one up and now I love em... they don't look bad in the air, and the bang for the buck is awesome...
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Thanks for all the replies! I really like the look of the showtime! Would a Saito 1.00 or a OS .91 Surpass work well in this plane?
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From: Ballwin, MO
Thought you said you wanted a 3D plane. The Showtime is a pattern plane that can do 3D. Its no 3D trainer. Also, you said you wanted a 40 size. If you are going up in size to 90, then the Funtana 90 or the Extreme Flight Yak 68". Are you wanting to learn 3D or just buy a neat looking plane? If you're gonna learn 3D, you need to get down low and take some risks...not exactly the best thing to do with a nice expensive airplane. Buy the Showtime or whatever else you like but save it for after you've learned to hover, torque roll and rolling harrier down on the deck with a profile.
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From: Cedar Bluff,
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Pro2K, if you are looking for something in the same size range as the F40, take a look at a Harrier 46. I flew a Funtana 40 for over a year, and while it was fun, it has one characteristic that I didn't care for. The F40 flew like it was constantly on the edge of a snap, and if you pulled full elevator, even in low rates, it did. In it's favor, it always started flying as soon as you got off the controles, but that snappy felling was still always there. It also was horrible in a harrier, the wings rocked like crazy, no matter what I did, and I never got confindent enough to harrier it close to the ground. The ailerons had very little effectiveness in a harrier and almost no effectivness in a hover. The Harrier 46 is just the opposite, very stable all the time, I can loop it even in high rates (I have all the travel that I can get in the surfaces in high rate), and it never snaps. Harriers are stable as a rock, I commonly bring it down to head high or lower and fly lap after lap just doing harriers. Every other manuever, tic tocs, blenders, walls, waterfalls etc. are at least as good or better than I could do with the F40, especially the tic tocs and hovering. The only real weak point I have found structurely is the landing gear and if you check the H46 posts you will find that is easily fixed. I have been flying a friends H60 (90 size) with a Saito 100 lately and at our field elevation of 2000 feet ASL, my H46 with a Saito 82 has a much better power to weight ratio. I think the small Harrier does most 3D manuevers better also.
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Thanks guys. I like the transportability of the 40 size but most said I needed a 90 size in order for me to get a nice stable and 3dable ship. And the price betwwen the 40 and 90's isnt that much. The Funtana 40 is around $170 and the Showtime 90 is about $250. The Saito 82 - $255 saito 1.00 $279. Not that much more. I'm used to helicopters were the kits are $900, engines $300, Gyro's $300, servo's $100 X5, and the crashes are $400's. So for $100 the difference between a 40 and 90 is really insignificant. I just want something that I can have fun flying, be pretty stable, fly pretty good at low speeds, and be able to hover and 3d well and LOOK SWEET!! Yes I want it all, I know.... ; ) I love the look of the Funtana but I will take good flight characteristics over cosmetics. So I will look into the Harrier 46, Fliton extra 330, UCD 40. I really do not want a profile plane. I have that in my foamies. Thanks for the suggestions though. I really appreciate everyones input!
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To be realistic, I would probably prefer a pattern type plane that is capable of 3d. I really like precision in flying. In helicopters, I always set mine up to be very smooth yet 3dable. A mix between FAI (pattern type) and 3d. Thanks!
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I dunno about that aviti... I think of the showtime as a badass 3d ship, that can do pattern stuff... especially after watching kyle w's video...
If you do go with a 90 size plane, I would suggest a YS 110, a good bit more power than the saito, and not much extra weight... It does carry a heftier price tag though
If you do go with a 90 size plane, I would suggest a YS 110, a good bit more power than the saito, and not much extra weight... It does carry a heftier price tag though
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Kyle W could make an overweight warbird into a 3D monster. No doubt the Showtime will 3D but I still stand by my advice that a 40 size profile will give you the most 3D bang for the buck in the learning phase. And if we are no longer limited by size or price, take a look at the Dalton 42% Extra 260. That will do incredible 3D and precision. Looks awesome too. The Comp ARF 3.3 Yak looks incredible also.
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From: Rittman,
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pro2k don't make the mistake i made with the F90. It only looks like a few more pennies till you start adding up expensive high tork servos which are a must for that plane. Don't get me wrong the plane flies like a dream, but it is not a good plane to learn on. I did not like profiles either until i got my first one. I actually flew it for the first time last week and i am hooked! I have a accel katana gs 40 with a saito 82 on it with 3004 servos on it. If you are looking to learn 3D I really suggest a profile. If you know what you are doing i suggest something in a 90 size with a good 4stroke. I used to fool around with 2 strokes all the time till i got my first 4 stroke. For 3D i don't ever think i will use another 2 stroke. Don't rule out profiles they may be ugly but when you fly one they start look great for the performance and especially the price. Also if you really like the funtana do alot of reading on it before you buy it. There are alot of things you need to do so you don't loose it to flutter.
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Thanks guys. I went to the hobby store and they had a few nice one to pick from.
HArrier .46 - .90
Showtime 4d 90
3d mayhem
UCD3d 46-90
Funtana 90
I really like the looks of that showtime! It's gorgeous. I am really considering it. I also like the harrier 46 and the UCD46. Man, picking a plane is biotch!
HArrier .46 - .90
Showtime 4d 90
3d mayhem
UCD3d 46-90
Funtana 90
I really like the looks of that showtime! It's gorgeous. I am really considering it. I also like the harrier 46 and the UCD46. Man, picking a plane is biotch!


