Heading lock gyro's for learning torque rolls???
09-03-2005 | 10:31 PM
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Heading lock gyro's for learning torque rolls???
HI guys, does anyone have experience with heading hold gyro's for learing torque rolls? I was wondering if these even work in an airplane and how effective they would be??
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09-03-2005 | 11:35 PM
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RE: Heading lock gyro's for learning torque rolls???
i read an artical in i think it was the ama mag. about how a few guys put gyros on the elevator and rudder of a foamy to test it out, and they found that it worked to some extent. in order for it to hold in a hover they had to have the sens. on the gyros set at max but if the plane drifted to far out of center the gyro would cause an over corection leading to an out of control airplane. but if they lowered the sens. it would not even hold at all.
it was quite awhile ago when i read it, so if someone else has had any experience with it, maybe they can chime in....
it was quite awhile ago when i read it, so if someone else has had any experience with it, maybe they can chime in....
09-04-2005 | 09:46 AM
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RE: Heading lock gyro's for learning torque rolls???
If they had a foamy they probably used mini HH gyros with non digital, slow servos. I have some experience with mini hh gyros with helicopters and they really don't compare to futaba gyros like the 601 , 502 and 401. I am sure if you use one of them on a nice size 40-90 size 3D plane with the correct servos you will have better results.
As far as using them as an aid, I wouldn't recomend it. Many poeple have learned to hover and T/R without gyros.
As far as using them as an aid, I wouldn't recomend it. Many poeple have learned to hover and T/R without gyros.
09-04-2005 | 10:42 AM
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RE: Heading lock gyro's for learning torque rolls???
its really not to hard anyways....just practice alot. and i cant say how much a simulator helped me when learning to hover
09-04-2005 | 05:40 PM
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RE: Heading lock gyro's for learning torque rolls???
Hi Ya,
If you take a CSM 560 gyro and access the settings in the interface and basically remove all of the conventional gain term in heading lock Mode... ya model should be nailed in the hover on the chosen axis! Things do however become a little interesting when the forward flight speed creeps up, so you need to set a non gyroing mode which is achirved via zeroing the conventional gain / heading lock range in normal lock mode. Throw limits can be adjusted via 'direct coupling'. This info is not first hand experience but from the designer of the gyros, so if anyone wants more details I will have to chase it up. Maybe I will get round to trying it out myself... but I wanted to learn the hard way fisrt
Just maybe this might help someone?
RussD
If you take a CSM 560 gyro and access the settings in the interface and basically remove all of the conventional gain term in heading lock Mode... ya model should be nailed in the hover on the chosen axis! Things do however become a little interesting when the forward flight speed creeps up, so you need to set a non gyroing mode which is achirved via zeroing the conventional gain / heading lock range in normal lock mode. Throw limits can be adjusted via 'direct coupling'. This info is not first hand experience but from the designer of the gyros, so if anyone wants more details I will have to chase it up. Maybe I will get round to trying it out myself... but I wanted to learn the hard way fisrt
Just maybe this might help someone?
RussD
