What is this 3D move called/done
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Pilot pulls up into a wall then does a 1/2 waterfall..at the bottom the plane goes inverted for a second or 2 (looks kinda like an inverted parachute...then completes the other half of the waterfall...
I cant seem to get it right[:@]
I cant seem to get it right[:@]
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From: nairn, UNITED KINGDOM
don't think there's a name for it, sounds more like a combination move, but here goes.
Level flight cruising speed, perform a wall as normal, at the same time whacking the throttle open. Push the model over the top of a tight radius bunt and bring the engine back to idle. Hold the down elevator on while inverted, then throttle up to push back round to vertical, and exit as desired either vertical or in a harrier.
Hope that helps
Level flight cruising speed, perform a wall as normal, at the same time whacking the throttle open. Push the model over the top of a tight radius bunt and bring the engine back to idle. Hold the down elevator on while inverted, then throttle up to push back round to vertical, and exit as desired either vertical or in a harrier.
Hope that helps
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From: aviemore, UNITED KINGDOM
I like it pulled into a wall, hang, power over the top, delay inverted bit, power back into prop hang and repeat a few times while you decide what to try next
Thats why I love this, always something new to try or the same things in a different order, amazing how different things can look followed up with a different move. I'm no great fan of giving them all different names, it does make them easier to dicuss but they don't all need names. A mate of mine is great at making up names for them his favourite one he calls the side slide, super high alfa knife edge basically. (thats Malcy by the way McFlyboy incase your wondering)
Thats why I love this, always something new to try or the same things in a different order, amazing how different things can look followed up with a different move. I'm no great fan of giving them all different names, it does make them easier to dicuss but they don't all need names. A mate of mine is great at making up names for them his favourite one he calls the side slide, super high alfa knife edge basically. (thats Malcy by the way McFlyboy incase your wondering)
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i just call it a "wall-push"
then try doing a wall, then do the push over part while rolling, i heard this is called the "Jesky Flip" lol
then try doing a wall, then do the push over part while rolling, i heard this is called the "Jesky Flip" lol
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Well, if its done right its not really a 1/2 bunt its a 1/2 waterfall. There is zero radius to the push over and then the plane sinks into an inverted elevator, immediately transitioning to whatever manuever you like. I like to transition into a rolling harrier. The plane has to be setup PERFECT to get it just right and its tricky to get over and inverted and hold it there without stalling since you have to be near power off or it will continue to waterfall.
Mine actually does look more like a 1/2 bunt because I cannot get my 37% Ultimate to pivot over the wingtube on the 1st rotation with reduced power. Being inverted at full deflection with almost zero airspeed is a very sticky place to be, you better know what you are doing or you will stall it right into the ground if you add too much power too fast or not enough power to make it fly.
Mine actually does look more like a 1/2 bunt because I cannot get my 37% Ultimate to pivot over the wingtube on the 1st rotation with reduced power. Being inverted at full deflection with almost zero airspeed is a very sticky place to be, you better know what you are doing or you will stall it right into the ground if you add too much power too fast or not enough power to make it fly.
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Practice this on a good foamy setup . It is easy with the really high power /low wing loading .
Once you get the hang of it - then you will see if your big bird has the right power/CG throws etc..
Once you get the hang of it - then you will see if your big bird has the right power/CG throws etc..
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From: Osborn, MO
I believe the maneuver is called 'The Dirty Sanchez'. No, wait...that's something else.
Seriously though, I am going to attempt a 180-degree wall into an inverted parachute. Has anyone seen this done??? My own-design 30% Edge (click [link=http://www.fiber-lite.com/images/Edge540_50cc_V2_002.jpg]HERE[/link] for a full-size pic) should have plenty of elevator and power to pull it off...I just haven't done it yet. I've done some walls that went well past 90 degrees...maybe 135 or so, but I let out of the elevator.
-Tom
Seriously though, I am going to attempt a 180-degree wall into an inverted parachute. Has anyone seen this done??? My own-design 30% Edge (click [link=http://www.fiber-lite.com/images/Edge540_50cc_V2_002.jpg]HERE[/link] for a full-size pic) should have plenty of elevator and power to pull it off...I just haven't done it yet. I've done some walls that went well past 90 degrees...maybe 135 or so, but I let out of the elevator.
-Tom
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From: aviemore, UNITED KINGDOM
? surely a wall is 90-degree either from level flight or a vertical down line so to so anything more than 90 it would need to be 270-degree, three quarters of a rotation, to create the stop deadness of a wall. Don't know if it's possible but let us know how you get on with it or show us a vid if you find one. Interesting idea though
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I have been trying a maneuver like this myself for some time, but with a twist:
Pull into a wall, then a high stationary hover. Then, perform a 360 waterfall and just when the plane completes one rotation, chop the throttle to fall into a long tailslide.
I call it the "Question Mark" and IMHO it is the hardest non-rolling 3D move I know (needs ultra precise throttle/elevator timing). I have only done it 2 out of 50 times, I think both by pure luck. The trick is a short throttle burst with up elevator right before straightening the plane at 360 degrees in order to re-stabilise it momentarily before it drops through its exhaust plume into the tail slide.
The first time I did it many people happened to watch the flight and were astonished.
Hell, I even watched myself in astonishment, so much as to let the plane slide tail down to a really hairy alititude (hasty shaky inverted recovery at 20 feet and a load of crap down my trousers...). I had only intended to do a single hover-into-waterfall-into-hover but missed the throttle timing at the bottom, resulting in a super tailslide.
Anyone out there good enough to catch this on video???
Pull into a wall, then a high stationary hover. Then, perform a 360 waterfall and just when the plane completes one rotation, chop the throttle to fall into a long tailslide.
I call it the "Question Mark" and IMHO it is the hardest non-rolling 3D move I know (needs ultra precise throttle/elevator timing). I have only done it 2 out of 50 times, I think both by pure luck. The trick is a short throttle burst with up elevator right before straightening the plane at 360 degrees in order to re-stabilise it momentarily before it drops through its exhaust plume into the tail slide.
The first time I did it many people happened to watch the flight and were astonished.
Hell, I even watched myself in astonishment, so much as to let the plane slide tail down to a really hairy alititude (hasty shaky inverted recovery at 20 feet and a load of crap down my trousers...). I had only intended to do a single hover-into-waterfall-into-hover but missed the throttle timing at the bottom, resulting in a super tailslide.
Anyone out there good enough to catch this on video???




