Have anyone seen/fly one of this? seems to be like a seduction with a diablotin wing... it is made by phoenix models

Yea I've got about 15 minutes of stick time on one with a OS .70 Ultimate. Mini digitals all round and set up for 3D. Plane wasn't mine so I didn't fly it much, did play with it enough though to form an opinion on it. What do you want to know?

great!, it is a really cheap plane and seems to be well built, I just want to know about KE (couples or not) and harriers/elevators

thanks

Right right. Let me start off by making this really simple comment Would I buy one myself? NO...Would I take one if it was given to me? NO...Hehehehe.

Sorry I just had to get that off my chest but ok as you probably know I'm a profile flyer so I only like 3D planes that can absolutely do it all without hassle. The Future is a nice model though for a throw around ARF but that's about as far as it goes. Knife edge is good but there is definitely some coupling. It will in the right hands pull a big knife edge loop well though. Upright harriers is a pain and well there's no way you're going to do them DOD without some serious spoileron mixing. It can do it but gets all squirrely/wingrocking and out of shape with no warning and no reason either. Upright elevators presents the same problem with alot of wingrock. Inverted harriers it can do well though as with just about any fatty. No wingrock inverted and it settles in really well, just about the only safe way I could get her controlled DOD for a down low hover.

Oh it torque rolls alright too. Not alot of tail authority but enough to pull it off in still wind conditions. Hovering is a little difficult because it doesn't have the ailerons to fight the torque all the time. But if you can balance it forward just right it'll stay still. Just don't lean too much or the wingrock starts messing with you.

Is it nicely built? Hahaha..... Structural design is mind boggling to say the least, some of their ideas like for instance the shear webbing is a joke. But ok the covering and so on is nice! Point I'm making though is the airframe is weak. Don't expect to be hopping this thing home on the landing. I don't know how in the world but my buddy managed to break hes wing in half right in the middle. Ok I'll stop now as it's starting to sound like I'm bashing this thing. Probably a nice plane for most and a good price it comes at indeed.

Cheers
Rudolf

...thruth is better, and as I like to fly all the way under stall, It is not a good option then

thanks a lot!

Doesn't look like alot of wing area as well with a wing like that.

it is the perspective, seems to be like 700 sq in (I have had it in my hands)

Seen one fly quite a few times. Tended to rock a fair bit in harriers, and then all of a sudden it would stall an fall off to the side quickly. Not very useful when you are low. Knife edge sucked on the one I saw, lots of coupling. The CG may have not been back far enough but it still seemed excessive. The quality of the covering and construction were very good, however I agree with the previous post about the sheer bracing. Not sure it would really hold that well after a bit of time on the airframe.
I think the worst thing about it was the colour scheme, made it very hard to see the orientation when it was away from you a bit. Didn't matter what the day was like whether it was sunny, cloudy, or in between it was just shocking to see at times

Shucks...the poor plane didn't stand a chance! LOL

ok ok ok... I swear I will NEVER buy one of these!!!!!