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Old 11-06-2002 | 08:52 PM
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Default Icg 180 Gyro For Hovering

I have a gyro that is intended to be used in a heli, on the heading hold servo. I am wanting to use it on rudder to help on my hovering. I was wondering if anyone had tried this or could tell me if it would work and what problems it might cause?

OR is this like using live bait for trout?

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Old 11-06-2002 | 08:57 PM
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I forgot to mention that I am using a eclipse 7 and am planning on setting up a mix to fly normal and then turn it on/off to hover. This is the only way I can come up with not to have to hold stick to over come the gyro in normal flight. It has the pilot override built in.
Old 11-06-2002 | 09:50 PM
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Skip the gyro, youll learn alot faster. The gyro is going to try to compensate for your corrections, and its not going to teach you good habits. Youre then going to have to relearn without the gyro. Sell the gyro to another rotorhead, and buy realflight if you want to learn with little risk.

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Default Icg 180 Gyro For Hovering

The ICG180 is pretty much the low end of gyros. It is not heading hold, and does not have remote gain control.

The lack of heading hold won't stop it helping you with hovering, but the gain control will.

The gain required for the gyro to actually have a noticeable effect will be too high for normal flying. The effect of excessive gain is that servo, rudder, elevator, whole plane oscillate back and forth rather violently.

The effectiveness of the control surfaces is part of the overall gain of the gyro control loop. The throws you use for pattern flying compared to 3D flying give you some idea how much the gain will change.

Heading hold (AVCS in Futaba speak) is usefull in hovering, but not in forward flight. Futaba make gyros intended for airplanes that have remote gain, and can select between normal mode and heading hold. One model will control two axes. You would nomally put the gain control channel on a switch, and switch to high gain as you enter the hover.

As you get better, you will be able to reduce the gain setting until you can hover gyro-free.
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I had the new futaba gyro.It was in my edge 540, It didnt' help
if you forget to shut it off in normal flight (WHATCH OUT). So needless to say it is gone now..PRACTICE ON REALFLIGHT G2
I setup the cap 232 and the ultimate on rf to 3D and that helped me more than any gyro, if you crash it try again..LESS EXPERSIVE THAT WAY. My 2cent's.
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THANKS FOR THE INFO, I will just put some more time in burning nitro and not in gyro's.
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NO GYROS!!! If you learn with one, you wont be able to go without one!!! I consider it cheating.
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I agree with 3Dbatixkid , It's cheating IMO .
Thats like handing the transmitter of to somebody else when you are hovering your plane .
Learn it on your own , Real Flight helps a lot .
Just learn to hover on Real Flight ,then try it up high if you are still scared .
I think using a Gyro to learn to hover would be, well , lazy .

Thats just my opinion though so do what you want.

Good luck with your Hovers..
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Default RE: Icg 180 Gyro For Hovering

When I first started trying to hover, using an own-designed funfly, I began to think it was impossible - and I just knew it was the model's fault. Out of curiosity I mounted a HAL2000 in the wing ("looking" through small "windows" of clear film in the top and bottom of the wing) to "prove" that my model wouldn't hover - and it hovered just great!

My favourite trick at the time was to get the HAL to hold the hover (rudder and elevator of course) and then apply full aileron to "spin" the model - this looked particularly impressive on windy days when the model would drift down-wind spinning like a top

Having proved it was me that couldn't prop-hang, and not the model, I then set-about learning to do it without the HAL's assistance. Nowadays I don't need any gyros or auto-pilots, but I think I might have given-up trying to learn had I not seen the model hovering perfectly under auto-pilot control

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