u can do or funtana
12-01-2005 | 10:10 PM
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u can do or funtana
i have a .51 supertigre engine and i was wondering if the u-can-do .40 or the funtana .40 would work well with my engine. i just want somthing to learn to hover. i know most of you guys use big 4 stroke engines at least thats what i usually see but will my .51 give either of those planes enough power to have vertical? any help would be appriciated as well as other suggestions
12-01-2005 | 10:59 PM
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If your engine can turn an APC 12x4 or 12.25x.75 12-13k RPM you should be able to hover either. The airframe will come down to preference, really. Build them light and you'll be good to go. You won't have much in the way of pull out, but it should be tolerable. The UCD will probably be marginally easier to hover and will be generally 'friendlier' to learn on. However, the Funtana will ultimately make you a better pilot IMO (provided it survives the learning process).
12-01-2005 | 11:03 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
for learning - you might wanna try that engine in a Modeltech Magic or a hangar 9 twist - something more like that. The 51 would fly both of the others, just depends on what you want.
12-01-2005 | 11:08 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
i was leaning towards the funtana, ive been practicing doing little hovers with the avistar with throw as far as they'lll go but i can only hold it a few seconds because of the rudder, dont get me wrong, i know the avistar isnt a plane to be hovering, just got a big yard and lots of time.
12-02-2005 | 12:28 AM
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ever considered a profile? work perfect for learning to hover, and do all the 3d. a 51 will fly all the 40 size planes awesome. Check out the profile section if you have any questions.
12-02-2005 | 10:51 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
i would personally rather have a nomal plane, mainly because of looks, but i might look into it. thanks for the advice tho
12-03-2005 | 07:01 PM
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Do yourself a favor and get the UCD, they almost fly themselves and they do some pretty decent 3D, they are why more fun that the Funtana, I had to and I will be getting ra thrid some day.
Mike.
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12-03-2005 | 07:07 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
UCD for hovering with the ST 51 is a great combo. Do the APC 12.25-3.75 as mentioned.
The super long tail moment on the UCD is perfect to teach to hover.
Leave the Funtana at the hobby shop.
The super long tail moment on the UCD is perfect to teach to hover.
Leave the Funtana at the hobby shop.
12-04-2005 | 12:11 AM
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RE: u can do or funtana
so would it be a good idea to put a micro servo at the throttle and a lipo reciever pack to save some weight?, and should i be able to handle this plane, i have flown avistar, sportsman aviation fw-190, and some other planes here and thier.
12-04-2005 | 10:04 AM
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I have been flying a UCD 46 for 1 1/2 years. I had a YS 63 on it first. The YS generates 8 lbs of thrust according to my scale. It will hover the UCD which weighs a whopping 6 lbs. I switched the YS to a 4 lb Burrito and put an OS 91 4 strokeon the UCD. The 91 really pulls it around like it means it. More thrust than I need but not than I like. The OS generates 10 lbs of thrust. Your engine will stain a gut to produce more than 6 lbs of static thrust.
First I have the UCD and a few profiles. I like the proflies better - they are more agile, more rugged, and easier to work on as the wear and tear of 3d learning sets in. The UCD 46 is a 60 size plane with a 46 label. With your engine you will get a few seconds of hover or something close to it . If you put it on a 4 lb plane you can 3d - not great but OK.
I wouldn't worry about the looks of a profile. They look fine in the air and you are going to ding up whatever plane pretty quickly. Your 3rd 3d plane can be pretty if you are into pretty.
First I have the UCD and a few profiles. I like the proflies better - they are more agile, more rugged, and easier to work on as the wear and tear of 3d learning sets in. The UCD 46 is a 60 size plane with a 46 label. With your engine you will get a few seconds of hover or something close to it . If you put it on a 4 lb plane you can 3d - not great but OK.
I wouldn't worry about the looks of a profile. They look fine in the air and you are going to ding up whatever plane pretty quickly. Your 3rd 3d plane can be pretty if you are into pretty.
12-04-2005 | 10:32 AM
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From: El Reno,
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I have the UCD46 with a Saito .72. Great for learning 3/D but it's very fragile compared to a profile. With the engine you got I'd go with a profile until your ready to get a bigger power plant.
12-04-2005 | 11:44 AM
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RE: u can do or funtana
ORIGINAL: Jack Hyde
I have been flying a UCD 46 for 1 1/2 years. I had a YS 63 on it first. The YS generates 8 lbs of thrust according to my scale. It will hover the UCD which weighs a whopping 6 lbs. I switched the YS to a 4 lb Burrito and put an OS 91 4 strokeon the UCD. The 91 really pulls it around like it means it. More thrust than I need but not than I like. The OS generates 10 lbs of thrust. Your engine will stain a gut to produce more than 6 lbs of static thrust.
First I have the UCD and a few profiles. I like the proflies better - they are more agile, more rugged, and easier to work on as the wear and tear of 3d learning sets in. The UCD 46 is a 60 size plane with a 46 label. With your engine you will get a few seconds of hover or something close to it . If you put it on a 4 lb plane you can 3d - not great but OK.
I wouldn't worry about the looks of a profile. They look fine in the air and you are going to ding up whatever plane pretty quickly. Your 3rd 3d plane can be pretty if you are into pretty.
I have been flying a UCD 46 for 1 1/2 years. I had a YS 63 on it first. The YS generates 8 lbs of thrust according to my scale. It will hover the UCD which weighs a whopping 6 lbs. I switched the YS to a 4 lb Burrito and put an OS 91 4 strokeon the UCD. The 91 really pulls it around like it means it. More thrust than I need but not than I like. The OS generates 10 lbs of thrust. Your engine will stain a gut to produce more than 6 lbs of static thrust.
First I have the UCD and a few profiles. I like the proflies better - they are more agile, more rugged, and easier to work on as the wear and tear of 3d learning sets in. The UCD 46 is a 60 size plane with a 46 label. With your engine you will get a few seconds of hover or something close to it . If you put it on a 4 lb plane you can 3d - not great but OK.
I wouldn't worry about the looks of a profile. They look fine in the air and you are going to ding up whatever plane pretty quickly. Your 3rd 3d plane can be pretty if you are into pretty.
12-04-2005 | 09:46 PM
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I would vote for that profile, it would give you the best perfermance (actually, unlimited performance) for that engine. It really sucks to be limited by your equipment, 3D is hard enough already.
12-04-2005 | 11:43 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
which profiles would you guys recommend? sorry for all the questians just want to make the best choice, plan on ordering some nice servos and a light lipo battery and charger. but my avistar weighs at least 5 pounds and it has got loads of vertical with a 10x8 and the .51 spins that prop about 11000 -12000 rpms last time i checked. so it should spin a 12x4 prop a bit faster. thanks for all your help.
12-07-2005 | 02:25 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
mojo arf
extreme flight edge
morris hobbies top cap or knife
ohio model planes katana, edge or yak
precision aerobatics bad boy
There are some great kits out there also:
Paul Swanson's burrito or mojo
Morris hobbies
ohio model products
etc
Visit the profile plane area.
extreme flight edge
morris hobbies top cap or knife
ohio model planes katana, edge or yak
precision aerobatics bad boy
There are some great kits out there also:
Paul Swanson's burrito or mojo
Morris hobbies
ohio model products
etc
Visit the profile plane area.
12-07-2005 | 03:26 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
Honestly between the twist and the magic Id say the twist all the way, the twist is awsome for learning how to hover and mine is rugged as hell, i run a 46AX on mine and she only weighs 4lbs 5oz's dry, my AX with the 12 1/4 x 3 3/4 apc puts out 7lbs of thrust running on 15% omega.
I will say a profile is your best bet for learning any type of 3D, and there are tons to choose from, I personaly like the OMP Katanas
and the Accel hobbys Katanas, the carl goldberg edge 540 profile is an awsome hovering plane but not as light as other profiles.
Good luck with your search.
I will say a profile is your best bet for learning any type of 3D, and there are tons to choose from, I personaly like the OMP Katanas
and the Accel hobbys Katanas, the carl goldberg edge 540 profile is an awsome hovering plane but not as light as other profiles.
Good luck with your search.
12-07-2005 | 03:52 PM
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From: Broken Arrow,
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RE: u can do or funtana
If you want to learn 3D and especially hovering on the deck then a Katana GS 40 is the way to go.
Actually the best tool to learn 3D is a Foamy ( the best is a Foamtana ) BUT
If you are wanting to go Nitro then go with the Katana GS 40 with a YS .63
Thats the best power to weight ratio ive found for the money.
There are plenty of videos on my website showing this.
[link=http://www.tulsarc.com/videos/by_pilot/van/10_katanaprofile/768k_katanaprofile_25.wmv]Watch Video[/link]
Enjoy.
Van [8D]
Actually the best tool to learn 3D is a Foamy ( the best is a Foamtana ) BUT
If you are wanting to go Nitro then go with the Katana GS 40 with a YS .63
Thats the best power to weight ratio ive found for the money.
There are plenty of videos on my website showing this.
[link=http://www.tulsarc.com/videos/by_pilot/van/10_katanaprofile/768k_katanaprofile_25.wmv]Watch Video[/link]
Enjoy.
Van [8D]
12-07-2005 | 09:26 PM
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RE: u can do or funtana
I have to agree with tulsa, except id run a Saito 82 same weight but alittle more power and much easyier to tune.
The absolute best has to be the Mojo 40, its gonna be available as an ARF soon.
The absolute best has to be the Mojo 40, its gonna be available as an ARF soon.
