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Old 11-27-2002, 06:01 AM
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Whats the difference in a aerobatic and a acrobatic planes? I here old guys at the feild talk about acrobatic planes. I've only heard of aerobatic planes. Have I lived a sheltered life or are these guys full of it? Whats you opinion?
Old 11-27-2002, 06:23 AM
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Acrobatics is aerobatics minus the wings.
Old 11-27-2002, 06:25 AM
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Acrobatics are for people stuck on the ground I think. technically speaking, once you jump up in the air, your doing Aerobatics? A dictionary might come in handy here, Cu's I'm just making this up as I go Are these the same old guys that keep calling a trio a orchestra?

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Old 11-27-2002, 06:30 AM
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Acrobatics are for funny guys in tights.
Old 11-27-2002, 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by Chris 540
Acrobatics are for funny guys in tights.
I'll have to remember that next time I take the Acrobat out to the field.... kinda cold now thou

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Old 11-27-2002, 06:38 AM
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OK, I'll be the nerd here ....source m-w.com

Main Entry: ac·ro·bat·ics
Pronunciation: "a-kr&-'ba-tiks
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Date: 1882
1 : the art, performance, or activity of an acrobat
2 : a spectacular, showy, or startling performance or demonstration involving great agility or complexity

Main Entry: aer·o·bat·ics
Pronunciation: "ar-&-'ba-tiks, "er-
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Etymology: aer- + acrobatics
Date: circa 1911
: spectacular flying feats and maneuvers (as rolls and dives)
- aer·o·bat·ic /-tik/ adjective


So, techicaly, a plane doing aerobatics is also doing acrobatics. But a man in tights doing acrobatics, isn't doing aerobatics.....
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Originally posted by SloFlight
OK, I'll be the nerd here ....source m-w.com


: spectacular flying feats and maneuvers (as rolls and dives)
- aer·o·bat·ic /-tik/ adjective


So, techicaly, a plane doing aerobatics is also doing acrobatics. But a man in tights doing acrobatics, isn't doing aerobatics.....
I'm not so sure about that one, I once did a lomcevak over a coffee table, but I 'didn't have any tights on

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Old 11-27-2002, 08:09 AM
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:idea: I was just curious if anybody wonders what Peter Pan thinks about all of this??? :bananahea
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The word aerobatics comes from the joining of the phrase aerial acrobatics. The phrase was first used in WW1 I think. I don't know when it was shortened to aerobatics.
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As Lomcevak is Polish for the way you walk when drunk-as-a-skunk, Aerobatic manoeuvers MAY be possible without the aircraft!!!
Old 11-27-2002, 01:53 PM
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Thats funny, I alway heard "Lomcevak" was russian for headace. This is because when peformed the always bumped their head on the windsheild.
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There have been many explanations but the best reaserched one I saw was that the manoeuvre was pioneered by the checks in Zlins, and the the word is used as in "He Lomcevacked around the room" meaning he staggered because he was drunk.
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Default Aerobatics or Acrobatics????

"Lomcevak" means HEADACHE.

AEROBATICS is a word for AIRIAL ACROBATICS.

DUH is the word I use the most.

HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS is the phrase I hear most often at the flying field.

WHOOPTEE SPLAT is the most common stunt performed by those that use the phrase above.
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Originally posted by Blackbird
:idea: I was just curious if anybody wonders what Peter Pan thinks about all of this??? :bananahea
Yeah.... good point. And I remember once when I was reeeeally small, seeing Santa do a 8 point roll out of the fireplace. Never was the same after that

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Originally posted by 2fast4u
[BHOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS is the phrase I hear most often at the flying field.

WHOOPTEE SPLAT is the most common stunt performed by those that use the phrase above. [/B]
Yeah, yeah, but is a WHOOPTEE SPLAT considered an "Acrobatic" or "Aerobatic" maneuver?
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So what would be the correct word for a man at the model field performing stunts with his airplane, but wearing tights??? Something to think about!!
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The Lone Acrobat strikes again!

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Dave Patrick offers a few explanations and meanings for "Lomecevak".


Option 1:
In Czechoslovakia its's spelled "Lomcovak" and that the root word is "lomocovat" which means to shake and that there for Lomcovak means "shaker".

Option 2:
Another explanation is that Lomecevak is a Moravian slang word for the gait one has when they have been drinking too much. An expansion of this is (option 2.1) that the slang term Lomecevak is often misinterpreted to mean hangover or headache.
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Hi Ho Silver!!!
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wouldn't that be...

Hi Hose Silver!!!

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So Lomecevak does mean headache. And as I stated before the maneuver we now call the Lomecevak was name so because of the negative G's pulled thus causing the pilot to hit his OR her (go Patty) head one the windshield.

Rossan, can you give factual information that it is Polish instead of Russian?
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I'm spending way to much time on here. :stupid:
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No I can't Andrew, I was relying on memory, and actually I meant Czech, not Polish. But I DO believe it was first performed by the Czechs in the Zlin 256, so it probably wouldn't be named in Russian.

Also, it's not actually a particularly high negative G manoeuvre (About minus 3), but was one of the first gyroscopic "tumbling" type manoevers to be flown.
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