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From: Durango,
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I realized that I while a go that I didnt put the giles on their[:@]. If your votes for the giles state it. My apolligise. Their also wasnt enough room on the pole for it.
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I voted for the 300S. It's the best sequence plane IMO.
I do like a Giles 202 for sequence flying, but the Extra 300S is my all time favorite flying design. Just smooth and precise.
I don't really think the Yak has been the "most successful" design to date. If we're talking about RC models--it really just came on the scene a year or two ago. I wouldn't call that successful. Maybe successfull marketing, but not necessarily successful design if we're talking about how many of them you've seen over the last 20 yrs. If they fly so great--if it's the ultimate pattern pplane in a scale platform--why are they just now becoming popular? Surely, someone would have figured it out before 2004.
Marketing, I say.
But, hey, if you like it, and it flies good for ya--then tear up the sky and have fun with it. I'm not criticising the plane--just questioning if it's REALLY been the most successfull design.
I LOVE a Cap 232 for flopping around.
Who am I kidding? I love 'em ALL!! They all do certain maneuvers really good, and certain maneuvers not so well. Each plane has strong points and weak points. You just need to pick the right one for the kind of flying you want to do that day. I have not flown a Yak. I currently have these 50cc planes--Extra 300S, Cap 232, Edge 540, Laser, Pitts. And an 80cc Extra 300L that I have not flown yet.
I don't even know whay I bought the Edge. As was mentioned earlier--they are hard to break into a spin for IMAC. I really don't care for the way the Edge flies--not at all. They won't STALL, and you need a wing that will stall at certain times in a flight. I think the reason why a lot of people like the Edge is because it will land slower than any of the others. And I hate to sound like an arrogant *****--but, I will go ahead and say it. Lots of guys can't land for beans, so they praise the Edge as a good flying plane---simply on the basis that they feel comfortable landing it. But, they will never actually ADMIT that. They just claim that it flies good--and inside they are just happy it lands like their Kadet Senior. [X(]
I like a Laser for sequence flying too, but they are kind of lacking in the tail area. I don't care for the little bubble canopy either.
Just my opinions.
I do like a Giles 202 for sequence flying, but the Extra 300S is my all time favorite flying design. Just smooth and precise.
I don't really think the Yak has been the "most successful" design to date. If we're talking about RC models--it really just came on the scene a year or two ago. I wouldn't call that successful. Maybe successfull marketing, but not necessarily successful design if we're talking about how many of them you've seen over the last 20 yrs. If they fly so great--if it's the ultimate pattern pplane in a scale platform--why are they just now becoming popular? Surely, someone would have figured it out before 2004.
Marketing, I say.But, hey, if you like it, and it flies good for ya--then tear up the sky and have fun with it. I'm not criticising the plane--just questioning if it's REALLY been the most successfull design.
I LOVE a Cap 232 for flopping around.
Who am I kidding? I love 'em ALL!! They all do certain maneuvers really good, and certain maneuvers not so well. Each plane has strong points and weak points. You just need to pick the right one for the kind of flying you want to do that day. I have not flown a Yak. I currently have these 50cc planes--Extra 300S, Cap 232, Edge 540, Laser, Pitts. And an 80cc Extra 300L that I have not flown yet.
I don't even know whay I bought the Edge. As was mentioned earlier--they are hard to break into a spin for IMAC. I really don't care for the way the Edge flies--not at all. They won't STALL, and you need a wing that will stall at certain times in a flight. I think the reason why a lot of people like the Edge is because it will land slower than any of the others. And I hate to sound like an arrogant *****--but, I will go ahead and say it. Lots of guys can't land for beans, so they praise the Edge as a good flying plane---simply on the basis that they feel comfortable landing it. But, they will never actually ADMIT that. They just claim that it flies good--and inside they are just happy it lands like their Kadet Senior. [X(]
I like a Laser for sequence flying too, but they are kind of lacking in the tail area. I don't care for the little bubble canopy either.
Just my opinions.
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If you made one of each - in same wing area and same wing loading - you would be hard pressed to tell any of em apart .in how they fly
The newer offerings are lighter and typically have been stretched and massaged to make em fly better - so much so that they are rapidly becoming just like the old pattern planes .
guys used to superimpose one successful pattern design over the other -to compare em.-I think I once saw 6 or more of em all layed over each other - not enough difference to stick in your eye .
The newer offerings are lighter and typically have been stretched and massaged to make em fly better - so much so that they are rapidly becoming just like the old pattern planes .
guys used to superimpose one successful pattern design over the other -to compare em.-I think I once saw 6 or more of em all layed over each other - not enough difference to stick in your eye .
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Very good points guys! I was reading about the full scale 300s and they said that the main difference is that the wingspan is shorter with increased aileron size. I perticularly like the 260 but thats the only plane ive flown to. Soon I will be flying my 40% edge but im curious if you said is true. Flying falcons on the giant forum said that hed be flying his in the unlimited class next year. Could some one that has flown all tell the strong points of all the planes and the weak points to. I have to agree with you on the yak.
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I voted for the Katana since it 3d's the best and is almost as smooth at the Edge 540 that I have and the extra. But, I know that I am biased and maybe not addressing the same points as the rest of you. I like loops, rolls. and some of the other pattern moves, but I also like stalls, Inverted and upright harriers and flat spins and High angle knife edges, and for those moves, Profiles fly best. But that is just me and may not count in the overall best design
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From: nairn, UNITED KINGDOM
Giles I find ot be a PITA for snapping, although they fly fast manouvres very very well
Extras are just great, full stop. They do everything well no doubt about it
The only edge I've had is a profile so i can't really comment, but it flies great too
Extras are just great, full stop. They do everything well no doubt about it
The only edge I've had is a profile so i can't really comment, but it flies great too
#15
Some of your descriptions of the different Extra designations are a little off. I offer the following for clarification.
Extra 200 is a Twin seat low wing
Extra 230 is a Single seat mid wing
Extra 260 is a Single seat mid wing
Extra 300 is a Twin Seat mid wing
Extra 300S is a Single seat low wing
Extra 300L is a Twin seat low wing
Extra 300LX is nothing more than a 300L with an experimental tail group added to improve performance. It was only added to a few custom airplanes, and never actually released from the factory as a 300LX
Extra 330L/Extra 330LX was NEVER produced by the factory. The 330L is nothing more than a 300L with a 330HP engine added to replace the stock 300HP engine. This was never released from the factory in this configuration or designation.
All you guys flying a 330L/330LX don't really have a factory scale airplane. They were never produced by the factory. These planes were modified and "nicknamed" by private owners.
Extra 200 is a Twin seat low wing
Extra 230 is a Single seat mid wing
Extra 260 is a Single seat mid wing
Extra 300 is a Twin Seat mid wing
Extra 300S is a Single seat low wing
Extra 300L is a Twin seat low wing
Extra 300LX is nothing more than a 300L with an experimental tail group added to improve performance. It was only added to a few custom airplanes, and never actually released from the factory as a 300LX
Extra 330L/Extra 330LX was NEVER produced by the factory. The 330L is nothing more than a 300L with a 330HP engine added to replace the stock 300HP engine. This was never released from the factory in this configuration or designation.
All you guys flying a 330L/330LX don't really have a factory scale airplane. They were never produced by the factory. These planes were modified and "nicknamed" by private owners.


















