If your interested in a great 3d plane that can make a mediocre 3d pilot look real good check out the sheer ecstacy thread in the FF forum, or visit hsrcm.com and check out the movies. I just finished mine and have 8 flights on it and there is nothing this plane wont do and do well. The only plane I have flown I can consistently do the bottom of a knife edge loop in, high alpha knife edge and knife edge elevator, extremely tight waterfalls that dont descend etc. If you dont mind building it will blow the pants off a u can't do. Not a plug, just excitment from a great day of flying yesterday with a new airplane