I wanted to post these planes in hope that the guy that designed them may see it or here that people are enjoying his plane. I don't remember his name but the plane was featured in AMA magazine, I think February 07, as a Club build combat plane. Our club built several, my first was the black one dubbed Darth Vader "Death Star" very durable with foam core wings. We all liked the way they fly so well in more of a 3-D stage than combat that i built another(orange plane)-lighter, even bigger controls and an AX 55. this thing is under 4lbs or right at it. I'll use the black one for all the fun fly stuff at our feild-and it has seen some combat with great success.

Grey Beard-if your out their-this is the one that may not see 50. Flo-Orange top/white bottom-you can see it!

They both need more Yellow!!!!!!!!

This is not the first time you said that! You must have a yellow fetish? Can't wait to fly that orange sucker. The controls are monsterous for the size, thought that about the original black one. I don't think anyone has built these-should have posted in the combat forum-Maybe it can be moved?