I have read from a couple of threads here that Dave Patrick has a set of 3D training videos called "wringing it out". Does anyone know where I can get them ? Any website ? Thanks......

dont think they were 3d...unless there were some new ones that I am not aware of...maybe I am wrong...

These are very old tapes, I would say about 10 to 12 years ago. He had voume 1,2 and 3 which were all excellent tapes. I have two and three but I dont know were to get them anymore. I also was looking for the last tape called smoke on were he dealt with smoke systems.

They are not 3D tapes. Jason Shulman has a excellent 3D tape. I don't know where you can get it but it's worth looking for.

Raj,

Jason's video is available from www.airbornemedia.com. If you want his, I'll make you a deal on mine. I got it a few months ago and watched it twice. Pretty cool, but not something I really need to keep around and refer back to.

Mike

Raj',

Did you see this thread yet? Talk about coincidence.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...11&forumid=139]

Hi Mike ! Talk about timing. I just ordered Jason's video from Bob Hunt. Anyway does it really give you any 3D training or is it just Jason showing off his 3D skills ?? What I need is training material. If you comne across any good books or video, do drop me a line. Thx.........

Just so you know...

I have all 3 of the DP Wring It Out videos, and the Smoke On video.

They are all very good videos for pattern flying. But they were produced way before 3D flying in it's present form came about. If you want to learn how to do Point Rolls, Humpty Bumps, and the like, they are very instructional. But if you want 3D, there is nothing in it that you would want. The Smoke On video, is good for setting up smoke systems, and he does a little 'hot-dog' flying at the end. But once again, there is no 3D instruction in it.

Also, just so you know, I have the the Milt Chip Hyde video, as well. It is along the same lines as the Wring It Out videos. It was made before 3D flying came about, and once again, it is a very good video for pattern flying. But there is NO 3D instruction of any kind in it.

It was funny looking at the list of tapes for sale somebody posted...I thought they raided my library!

There is one other 3D video out there other than Jason Shulman's (which I have, as well), but I can't remember it right now. If you do a search for 3D video on RCU I'm sure you will come up with it. Also, Jason's video is very good for basic 3D maneuvers. I just want to know when, and if, they are going to come out with volume 2, so I can learn some of the more advanced stuff?

Hope this helps?

Mark,

Thanks for the great info !

It's not so much Jason showing off (until he catches the fish), but it's very.... very basic. i.e "Here's how I mixed my rudder and elevator to offset the coupling in Knife Edge"... etc.

I didn't go "wow! I never would have thought of that" anywhere. It's one of those things you'll watch twice and then you'll be done with it.

Mike

Appreciate your comments, Mike.......

Another video is The art of 3d flying by Frank Knoll Jr. pretty good as well. The thing to remember is that all of these maneuvers take the right plane and setup, then its just a matter of burning fuel. These guys can do what they do only because of this reason.
The wring it out series is great because it teaches one important thing, learning through progression.
Learning a rolling cobra (or rolling Harrier) starts from perfecting the slow roll.
Learning a high alpha knife edge starts by perfecting regular knife edge flight.
I do believe the tapes are a definite aid, but like a wise ad once said

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Hi sal, I visited carden's website a few days ago and it seems they do not offer frank noll's tape anymore........