victorzamora

I'm DYING to get one of these. What have you heard about them? Aeroworks has a Yak and an Extra in this series. They don't look to be truly "QB" series, as they don't seem to be pre-hinged. Both of these look like GREAT fliers. I think they'll be WELL worth the money if they fly as nicely as the Fliton Freestyle planes. I've got two Saito 100's sitting around my garage waiting to be used. Seems like maybe I should get an AW Extra to strap a Saito 100 on.

What do you think? What have you heard?

frieshoo

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Hey Victor,

This is Dennis from Lowgap. How's it going?

I like the looks and design of both the planes. What are looking for? 3D? IMAC?

Does anyone have AUW on the 260?

Later

Dennis

chuck993

I talked to Aeroworks yesterday, the Extra 260 is suppose to show up today, the Yak at the end of next month. I have 2 Aeroworks, top notch quality and flying, excellent planes.

victorzamora

Hey Dennis! I had no idea that was you. How's it going? The Aeroworks site says between 6 and 6.5lbs and almost 700squares. That's between 20 and 21.7 oz/in^2.

Dennis, I'm looking for a 3D plane that flies smooth and looks good. I was considering a Mojo 60, but now that I've found this plane I think I know what I'll be asking for for Christmas. But mostly, I just want this to be a thread discussing the AW planes.

victorzamora

Chuck, did you get that Extra?

chuck993

I was going to get the Yak, but haven't as of yet, I have a bunch of ARF's right now, 2 Aeroworks, bunch of Hanger 9, etc... the Aeroworks look great though.

djr1007

I bought two of the 60-90 Yak 54s. They are every bit as nice as my 50cc yak. I think these are worth evey penny, they put all other BARFs to shame. I originally intended to shoe horn 2 YS110s I have into these, but after checking them in person that would be just WAY too much. I just bought two new OS75s to go into them. Actually one belongs to a friend and I'm building it for him. We'll maiden them both Saturday.

victorzamora

That's great to hear! I've got a Saito 100 awaiting an Aeroworks Extra. What do you think of the Saito fitting in the Aeroworks? One thing I know is that the 100 is quite a bit lighter than both the 75ax and the YS-110. I think you're going to have to do a build thread, even if only a few pics and comments in this thread, for the sake of everyone wanting to get one of these (which basically translates to me ).

Congrats on your Yaks! They look like a lot of fun to fly!

yfz450106

Just ordered the .60-.90 Yak should have it Monday or Tuesday. I've got a new O.S. .91 FX with a Pitts muffler sitting on the bench waiting for it, hopefully this will give me all the power I need for any and all 3D manuvers.

victorzamora

I sure would hope so . Y'all let me know how those things go together!

Do y'all know what servos y'all will be using?

philsch

Yes, I just bought the Extra, what servos should I use??

I'm planning to use a OS 75 AX.
I didn't order the engine yet. Is a 4-stroke going to be that much better?
Phil S.

yfz450106

I have some tower hobbies TS64 that are 83 oz of torque at 6 volt that I had in my kyosho flip and they worked great .I think these should do it. If anybody thinks these will not work please post. I would hate to loose this plane because of a bad servo choice.

victorzamora

I don't know if a 4-stroke will be "that much better." I have two Saito 100's laying around, one is NIB and the other is in used but great shape....so I figured I'd put one of them on an Aeroworks plane. I like 4-strokes for a lot of reasons. They seem to be more reliable, especially during hovers. They're also less of a pain to tune, because once they're set they're pretty much set. I also love the noise of 4-bangers. They also seem to have better response, and more torque. My Saito 100 was turning an APC 15x4W in the high 9k's...and I was about to move to an APC 16x4W and was looking for low to mid 9k's.

I have no idea about those tower servos....but I had a TH engine and was WAY less than thrilled. In fact, I'm fairly upset with the quality of TH brand items in general. If they're good for your flip, they'll probably be good enough in your AW....but I want mine to be top of the line. I don't want to be able to blame anything besides my thumbs. I figured I'd put these servos in there: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/18220
They're cheap, fast, strong, and reliable. I was going to use those in the wings and on rudder, and I was going to use hs-225MG's on the elevator. I think that'll be good enough. I'm going with 5-cell 1650NiMH...possibly redundant set-up just for the fun of it .

yfz450106

I also have a O.S. .91 4 stroke that could find a new home in the Yak but I am not sure this would have the pull needed for 3D manuvers. I am hopeing that a few more people start posting that have this plane about what engine they are running. But since this is a new model I think I might have to wait for a while before anybody gets much stick time with one of these.

philsch

Thanks for the advice Victor,
do you know what servo you want to use on the throttle. The manual said something about it being fast.
I don't know how fast or why the throttle servos needs to be especially fast.

I assume the servo sizes are all standard size servos?

Phil S.

yfz450106

Brought home the Yak today. Looks great now just have to decide what to use for motor the .91 4 stroke or the .91 2 stroke.

victorzamora

Actually, the servos I'm looking at are standard servos except for the hs-225mg's. The 225's are Hitec's mighty mini's. They're metal geared servos rated at .11s and 68oz-in of torque. I figured they'd be more than enough on the elevator. I was thinking about just a standard on throttle....my Saito's respond fast enough for me to not have to worry about servo speed. If I decide to splurge, I might shell out the extra $3 for the Hobbico CS-12MG. It's rated at .09 seconds and 42oz-in. 42oz-in should be more than enough for throttle. It's also WAY faster than even the blazing .19 seconds on the S3004 standard servo. The CS-12MG at 6v has as much torque as the 3004 does at 4.8...but weighs 80% less! I'm pretty happy about it. I guess I just changed my mind on getting the 3004. Oh, and fwiw....allerc has those same servos I mentioned above like $7 cheaper!

victorzamora

yfz450: I was looking at specs and running numbers on both of those engines. If your 91 4-stroke is a Saito...then it's 3oz lighter than an OS 91FX. If it's one of the OS type 4-strokes (thunder tiger, super tiger, magnum, asp, etc) it's the exact same weight. Using the numbers I've found online (both here and on TowerHobbies), I figured that the max thrust for all of those engines is right around 11lbs (including fuselage drag). It's about 11.8lbs of thrust with no fuse. The only deciding factor for me, other than the two 100's I've got hanging around homeless, is the disk loading. The 4-stroke engines will spool up more quickly because the disk is less loaded. The lower the loading, the better it is for 3D, but the worse it is for racing. For 3D you want 150 or below...for racing you want 250 or above. The 4-stroke gives you 133 while the 2-stroke gives you 173.

This is all according to Pe Reivers's prop power calculator....an AWESOME tool!

yfz450106

Thanks Victorzamora: Wow thats pretty deep info about the engines. The 4 stroke is a OS surpass .91 and based on what you have come up with I think I will try the 4 stroke and just leave the cowel off for the first couple of flights until I can make sure this is the engine I want to run.

victorzamora

Go [link=http://mvvs.nl/prop-power-calculator.xls]here[/link] It's where I get my "smarts"

I think I'm gettin the Yellow Extra for Christmas. I was hoping forr the red one, but it's okay. I'm still not even sure I'm getting it....but oh well. I just hope they didn't get me any servos with it because I'm sure my dad would've just gotten standards and my mom would have even less of a clue.

So...has anyone started the actual building??

yfz450106

I got the Funtana to a stopping point last night so I might try to get started on the Yak tonight. I will keep posted to let everybody know how it is going.

victorzamora

I've never been too impressed by Funtana's. If the AW plane flies half as well as I'm hoping, you will be looking for another AW plane to put your Funtana equipment in .

yfz450106

Yea the Funtana was a freebie from a friend that did not want to fix it after he ripped out the landing gear so I am not getting to excited about getting it in the air, I still need all the guts to go in it.

Wully

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Hi Victor,
See you are in Mt Airy....I live to the East about 2 1/2 hrs in Dunn, NC. Getting the Extra from Santa(me) and just got it in yesterday. Looks good but I see the ailerons, rudder, and elevators are not hinged so I'm a little dissappointed in that respect. My best buddy has a 35% AW Extra so I know they are excellent planes but I have just been overcome by the Warbird bug. The only power I have to put on it is a YS 110-S which I actually bought for the P51, but I think that will be a little too much juice the more I read about the Extra .60/.90.
Was really wanting a Top-Flite P 51 but pulled the trigger on the Aeroworks website last week and now I'm having second thoughts. If you don't get a plane for Christmas tell your Mom to get this one for you....it's red. I have it still in the box and will sell it to her/you for my cost $299 less $25 discount. I travel to Greensboro and High Point all the time so I will be glad to meet you in that area or even in Mt Airy if you decide to get mine. Otherwise I am either going to put it on RCU or on our club website.
Thanks,
Frank

victorzamora

Haha....I'll let you know if I don't get one, but I'm still banking on one under the tree day after tomorrow . Santa had better bring it over....or my 6'5" rear will be very upset! Sounds spoiled...but it's the only thing I want this year!!

Edit: Quick update, I told my da....err, Santa that I know he's not allowed to tell me if he's gotten me the plane but standard servos won't suffice...so if he needs to go to the LHS he can get some fuel while he's there. He said, "Well...I haven't bought you ANY servos." Translating to: "plane: yes; servos are your own expense"