I've noticed a scary tendancy On my DP extra: while in a power off dive and I apply below the recommend low rate travel to hard I have a fairly hard snap to the right(if I remember) However If I'm flying straight and level full power and apply full up elevator high rate (think wall)I don't get the high speed stall (just a little twisting from the tourqe) The straight level full power speed is very comparable to the dive speed.

Is there a way of stopping this short of decreasing elevator throw? I can get away with the full deflection if I slowly apply full elevator for about the first half of travel. It was quite scary the first time it happened and Im always afraid if it happening again. I tried moving the cg more foward and it didn't appear to help much at all.

Move the CG back. I have not noticed mine do it.

The cg Was already a good distance back I'm trying to set it up for Imac flying not really 3d and a more rearward cg may make it more prone to snapping.

What prop are you running? I know that I have seen this with a prop that is too flat. It slows the plane down too much and stalls it at pull out. Try something with at least an 8 pitch.

I tried a 18x8 bambula but the performance was horrible I'm now running a 18x10 menz which gives me unlimited virtical.

And it still stalls on pull out with the 18x10?

How do you get unlimited vertical with a 18x10 but limited vertical with a 18x8?

Yes it snapped on pull out with the 18x10
As for the virtical performance
I was wondering the same thing, I have no clue I run 12% nitro in the moki and the only thing I can think is that its over revving or something. It may not have been tuned right but I took the tach to it on the ground.

But the performance spoke for itself the 18x8 fell over where the 18/10 kept going I might try again this weekend and try tuning a little more.

I have the ability yo take a video of the pull out + snap and I can upload it I also can take a video comparing the virtical performance of the 18x8 and the 18x10 I may try that if I can find a photographer than can go out there with me on thursday afternoon.

I guess the Menz is a lot better propeller than the Bambula.

Hmm....thats really strange the way it is snapping....whats the weight of the plane?

I've never weighed it but it's the 3rd gen moki 1.80 menz, only 1 servo per surface and a mini on throttle so I't cant be to heavy. Like I said I have unlimited virtical

I tried a 18" bambula on mine today, not a good combo for mine, I lost vertical, but was snappy. Not worth it IMO.

Kallikrates, where is the video. I would like to see it.

I still have to take it...

Mine will snap on the down side of a loop or other downline if I am not careful. Not real violent, but enough to get my attention. That is about the only thing I don't like about this plane. I have a zdz 40 on it with a 22x8 prop. Weighs a little over 16lbs and it a touch tail heavy. You are not the only one!

When you're pulling out from a downline it is 1 extra G over pulling up from level. Check elevator throws, lateral balance. If it isn't either of those then check all incidences. Also, you can't compare doing a Wall to pulling out normally; the Wall happens so quick that you go deep into the stall before either tip has a chance to stall. Try pulling full up on low rates in level flight and see what happens. If it still snaps then decrease your elevator low rate.

I'll give that a try I'm still moving from 3d flight settings to imac settings so My throws are still probably to high in low rate.