Greetings, what exactly do you guys like to look at for making your corrections as the plane torque rolls? Do you make corrections when the canopy is facing you and then again when the belly is facing you, or ? What are the best exercises for working up to torque rolling..... like switching from inverted to regular harriers?

Thanks loads,

Ernie

Buy a foamie that will 3D, thats what solved it for me.

After that it just became automatic.

when u see the belly or underside i push the rudder stick under the low wing. i make corrections all of the time its t-rolling the front side is easier is the reason i provided a tip for the belly.

You have to look at everything (at the same time). As you imply, when the plane's wingtips face you, that's often the most difficult to discern what corrections are needed. Wingtip up or down still requires rudder to correct in that condition.

In general, assuming the plane is close, looking at the tail when canopy or belly faces you, and wingtips when sides face you is a good place to start.

Now I really just "stare" at the whole plane and that works for me.

I recall "cheating" a little to help the plane rotate faster through the side facing transitions by giving left roll input to minimize my (error) corrections at first.

As BarracudaHockey says, getting a foamie is a good way to get comfortable. It helps to be close to the plane (without being afraid of it) so your depth perception can be used as well as the visual cues I mentioned. Down on the deck and close will speed this.

And a simulator of course.

what foamy do you guys recommend that could run on my existing zippy 20C 3S 2200 lipos? I'd like something that is cheap, tough, easy to fix, and will handle high alpha and KE well.

G2-G5 is a cheap plane to fly (the simulator)

I learned everything I know on bluecore foam.. Go to hobby city and buy a complete power set, a rick of foam from lowes, an exacto, and go for it..!!That helped me alot.. From there I graduated to 2 .40 size katana profiles, a hangar 9 funtana x-100, now I am flying 100cc-150cc on the deck.. I just graduated in baby steps.. There is a lot of good advice on this post and many pointers and tips.. But here is the best tip, FLY !!!BURN GALLONS of fuel. I also learned set-up is critical.. My extreme flight 110 yak would always fall on the nose in a hover and I had to fight it every flight. Moved my batteries back 4" or so and now pop it into a wall and it stands there.. I learned the hard way as I was the only guy in the club trying 3d that bad set-up can make a good pilot look bad!!

I'd suggest a DW 48" yak. The batteries you mention are good for that and it is an awesome flying plane. It will let you learn all 3d moves.