So whats the verdic on these two birds? Which does better flat spins harriers hovering etc. the TANGO or TWIST 40?

Horrizons sight makes it sound that the TANGO is the better one but I've seen the twist in action and know it does the above well.

Thanks for your input!!!!

Get something else that can really 3D. These are old designs and now just considered decent fun-fly planes.

State of the art 3D. [link=http://www.swanyshouse.com/mojo60/mojo60.aspx]http://www.swanyshouse.com/mojo60/mojo60.aspx[/link]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pKU1LFvlMM[/youtube]

Thumbskull. What's the bench mark engine for the Mojo 60?

This will trump the twist and tango!!! I was really wanting a funfly type bird but I'll still be able to use the Mojo with better control and such,

GOOD CALL I'M GLAD YOU RESPONDED.
Scott

These do well with Saito 100-125, YS110, OS110a.
Saito 100 is the perfect match. The others just overkill it a little.
They are a quick build because of the design.

T.S. is right and well said about this one. I have the twist 60 and itlooks pretty convincingdoing all the moves you listed. But its way way way more work to learn them and the end result isn't what you'd get with a modern design. Besides just the power to weight thing, learning to truly control wing rock is one thing on something like a mojo/primo that harriers well. Its really daunting on these older designs that have lots of wing rock built in. Life's too short. Get a modern profile.

Having said all that, it always makes me laugh when somebody says these old planes can't 3D. It just takes more practice. But for me the twist is just a fun sport plane. I can do some 3D with it, but a good profile is much more capable.

Sounds good. I was actually looking for a 40 size so went with the primo 40. I hope I made the right decesion. It is the upgrade that pilots wanted to see in the profiles.

great choice!  I think you picked the best one available.

If you want to learn 3D, build a Spad3DT plane. When you quit breaking 3-5 props, 2 motor mounts, landing gear every flying session, move up to a more friendly and capable 3D plane. This plane will teach you rudder and throttle control. If you have spare parts on hand, never more than 30-40 min. to get back flying.

He doesn't sound like a beginner pilot. If that's true, then the SPA3D is no way to learn 3D.
Yeah it can teach harrier and throttle management and rudder. But they don't really 3D all that well.

the primo is a great plane you made the best choice i fly a baby primo 15 and love the thing to bits.

just an observation, but it seems nothing 3D's as well as a modern profile. Kind of like how foamies evolved, it seems to me profiles have taken 3D to a place it couldn't have gone with traditional models, especially in this size range. you don't see that kind of hang time, if you will, until you get to the largest gassers, like 40% and up.

I am a 3D flier. I want the primo to work on muscle memory and such for new routines or maneuvers. They are also a blast to beat around when your done flying for the day and just want to goof off with the buddies.

Thanks for the input on the primo. I thought I was making the right choice with Thumskull leading me there

I should have'er by Friday. "excited!!!!" YES!!!!

Great choice you won't regret it. Primos fly really nice. Here's a few pics of my E primo.

I really like my Tango with an OS FL70, but wouldn't recommend it for easy 3D. It does do funky stuff on hi rates tho. My buds are always sayin 'What was that?' and I haven't a clue. [8D]

The biggest problem with profiles are they are so - - - looking
My 40 twist is a nice looking plane an is 1 heck of a flatspinner
Perfect for flying in a 20 mph wind
I have an os 61 on it an yeah it is alot harder to do 3d an could really use SFG's for knife edge

If you make it about flying, looks don't really matter.

If you make it about looks, you have to go over 30% scale to get good 3D.

Actually I think profiles look fantastic.  Pure function and performance.  To each his own, but nothing in modeling does it for me like a profile.

BTW, I have a twist 60 and enjoy flying it on occasion.  TR's beautifully.

Dido on " performance is the key!!!"

I'd put a turd in a punch bowl if it made it tast better ( it doesn't though)

Maybe this thread should have been called
Titanic vs. Hindenburg


Wise choice on the Primo 40! It's a very capable 3D profile that's a real joy to fly.

So what engine are you going to put in it?

Glad you showed up Dave.

Show me a Twist or a Tango that can do THIS:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euTDSG42IW4[/youtube]

So much for the 'Twist vs. Tango' debate huh! [8D]

"The biggest problem with profiles are they are so - - - looking "

I also disagree. My EF Edge and Chinn Yak are two of my favorites. They always get positive comments at the field. Matter of fact, Dave's vid of the CY was the deciding factor on my purchase of it. It's my favorite vid, just wish I could drop the music. I'd rather listen to his left thumb!

I still like the Tango, it has unique handling and really performs. I'm also building a Dazzler a bud gave me. Having steak every day would get old, I like a burger or seafood too.

I have that vid on my desktop.  Truly inspiring.    These older designs have their place, and as Eddie said, the variety is nice. I think what we're all agreeing on is that airplanes like the Twist, Tango, etc, really can't be called 3D airplanes. They simply don't fit the genre.  And profiles rock!

I just picked up a Twist with a golden knight 72, servos, and RX from Craigslist for $200.00 [8D] After seeing that Primo video I think I'm going to take the 72 off and sell it and buy a Primo to build this winter. [:-]

Well, the engine alone is probably worth that so it's a great place to start.

Would that 72 work good on the Primo or would it really have to have an 82