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Hey,

Just wondering if anyone had suggestions for engines on the magic. I have looked at some reviews and they say lighter is best. Would the O.S. 32 SX be good enough to pull It out of a hover? Or am i better off with a .46 FX for the power? ;) Any other recommendations for engines? I want a powerful, maneuverable plane.

Thanks in advance,

Navy

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Hi,
I have a Webra 50 in mine and it goes up llike a rocket. I have heard that it will hover with an LA 40. I think both of your choices would work fine. I would go with the 32. Should be plenty of power.

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I have a ST.45 on mine with a pitts muffler. got weight wrapped around the tail wire, but it flies GREAT; but then it flew great with an MVVS .40 on it also. If you get a .45 use an APC 12.25x3.75 prop.

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I dont have one so I dont know but guys around here are flying them with the TT .36 and they seem to pull out of hover fine.

thanks
 

Thanks to all who responded. I think i will go with the os 32 (more output than 40 LA, equal to the TT 36, but lighter than both.) thanks again guys. :D

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I dont know if a magic will hover on a stock OS LA 40. With a pipe it probably will. My dad has an OS LA 46 on his with a mac pipe, 11x4 and it hovers easy. So any of your motors will work with it.
Im going to put a YS 63 in mine when I get to it!!!!

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Mine will hover and torqu roll with a stock Thunder tiger GP42, APC 12.25 x 3.75 and I have 3/4 oz. of lead on the tail.

Lou

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Go light and powerful, irvine 39 (extremly poverfull on a small price)

Or

A west eurotech 36t1 and pipe, but i dont know if you can get these in the US. all i can say is there amazing. They are more expencive, but your paying for the best.

Ian

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Anybody doing brushless in this model ?

Jim

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Ha, Navy! I have a 36 TT in my magic,with a macs shorty pipe. It hovers and pulls out fine.The planes weight is 4.1lbs.Could be lighter but I used a du-bro isolated mount went with HS 225mg all around on 4.8v. P.S elevation were I fly is 2200 asl Have Fun! Butch.

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Jim,

Check out this site: http://www.megamotorusa.com/

They have some videos of the Magic 3D they are flying on electric power. Looks like it hovers easily with great pullout.

Just found the link directly to the videos. Here you go: http://www.megamotorusa.com/videos/mega-magic.htm

Wade

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I had a OS 32 SF with an Ultrathrust muffler on my Magic and it ROCKETED out of a hover, power to BURN! :D

Josh

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I have a friend that has a TT 42GP w/mousse muffler on his Magic 3D. It flies the plane great just flying around, but he isn't too pleased with the power in a hover and especially in pullout from a hover. It's a new motor so maybe it will get better with some runtime. He probably needs to experiment with some different props. I think his plane is a few ounces under 4lbs. Maybe this much weight is a little too much for the 42 when it comes to hover pullout authority. Any ideas?

Wade

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The GP range arnt that powerfull. go iurvine 39!

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There's been a few guys on here that have said the GP 42 with mousse setup had plenty of pullout from a hover. Maybe his plane is a little heavier than some.

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Whats a 'mousse' setup

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Check out this thread for info on the mousse can muffler:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...se+can+muffler]

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I just got a Magic, from a buddy, and he had a Magnum 52 FS. He turned a 12X5, so I thought the O.S. turn at least a 12X6. WELL..
I flew this plane this morning, and it will actually hover just above idle. This set-up is a heaver engine then you were looking for, but the overall result is incredible.

bobbdd

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One guy on here tried a Saito 40 on his Magic, but I think he said it could use a little more power.

Wade

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i had a magic(fluttered ailerons going vertical;( )i would definately go with a .46fx. You will find it is cheaper to buy the best stuff first insead of somethin else and not be satisfied with it, but it is up to you

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In the middle of putting a Magic together myself...... I'll be using an OS.52 on mine swinging a 12-5...............
Judging by those videos above, the Magic looks to be a bit unstable............. maybe it's just there setup......................

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Its a very light plane. proberbly 1.6kg (sorry dont know it in lbs)

Also it could be windy, and with a thick section like that it'll be blown all over the place

Ian

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Leo 37 from Just Engines, cheap and VERY powerful!

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I have a OS 40 LA in mine and it doesn't have unlimited vertical.
Anyone ever run a Rossi .40, they say it has 2.0 HP? That's more than a .46 and others.

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No No No No NO

Use a LIGHT engine. This will make the CG further back without having to add weight. I have 2 of these. one with a 46 and one with a 36. the 36 out perform the 46 bye miles. you need low weight=low wing loading=low speeds

Use a 32-39

Nouthing else

Ian

You'r right about the C.G.
 

You could still use the .52 FS with the servos in the tail, you can keep the C.G. back, with out adding weight. Really, it's still a floater, with the .52 FS, with all the wing it has.

bobbdd

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I agree with Ian. I set one up with an OS 46FX and it flew fine, but had to add some weight to the tail. All up weight was 4lb. I sold it and the 2nd owner down the track put a Supertigre .45 in it. It didn't fly as well as you really noticed the extra weight. Same plane sold again and this time the guy put an OS 40LA in it running 5% nitro. No weight in the tail and overall weight now under 4 lbs. It flys the best with this combination, pulls out of a hover just, but is also easier to hover. With some more nitro this could be improved.

Alan

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I know that with the .40 La and the way I set up everything it's still tail heavy. I've added weight to the prop bolt, but it's not enough, gonna have to add more up front.
My servo's are where they are suposed to be.
Thinking of putting a .46 FX on it to balance.

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Go lighter

Ian

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You keep saying go lighter, k, gotcha. But if I've gotta add weight, why not make it useful. I'm so tail heavy it's scary to fly and that's with the 40 on it.

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How far down the wing chord is the CG

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5" to 5 1/4"

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Whats the chord?

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Average about 15 1/4"

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Keep the magic as light as possible. I can't imagine that a TT .36 would not be enough power for this plane. I have a TT .46 on mine and had to add several ounces of weight to the tail. The plane is affected by weight because after a couple of repairs it totally lost some of the slow speed characteristics it had in the begining.

I think a TT .36 with a Mouse Can Pipe would be the perfect choice to power a Magic.

Don't discount the effectiveness of a MCP. I can spin a 12.25x3.75 at over 13000 rpm using just 10% nitro with my TT 46 & mouse can pipe.

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Your CG should be fine mate

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I need more engine though. I pulled the baffle out of the muffler, that should give me more. It would hover, but that was full power and low fuel.

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here me with my magic

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Here is 1 more of me and my magic. I am trying to work on tail touching the pilot station.

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M.gramling, what engine you using on your Magic?