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Tomi 02-15-2004 02:35 AM

U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
Getting this plane pretty soon. A guy recommended a Evolution .61 motor for it. He said it will pull out better during hovering. The motor is only $119 so I might get that, but only if it's a good setup for this plane. Is there any other engines that will pull out during hovering at the price around $100?? Or what type of engine are you guys running for your UCD46?

Thanks,
Tomi

NeoGenesis 02-15-2004 08:14 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
Saito 1.00 Save you money casue it's worth it. Everything else is just a waste of time. A 2 stroke doesn't do this plane justice.




Neo

Dewey2 02-15-2004 10:45 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
satio 100=O+yea=[8D]

Nik 02-15-2004 11:53 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
I strongly disagree!
We have a guy at our field that flew a Ucan 40 with TT .61 ($100, I have it too, runs awesome!) and one with a saito 91 or 100 (Not sure)
The saito had abit better acceleration out a hover, but I think it's not worth the price...
-Nik

ORIGINAL: NeoGenesis

Saito 1.00 Save you money casue it's worth it. Everything else is just a waste of time. A 2 stroke doesn't do this plane justice.




Neo

Tomi 02-15-2004 06:04 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
I ain't payin no $280 for a peice of metal.

anway, I went out and looked at the Evolution .61 motor and it looks very nice with blue anodized parts. $119 for the motor. I'm gonna get it. My LHS said a friend of his is currently flying one and is using the evolution .61 motor and it pulls out during hover good.

Also, what prop size is recommended with this setup?

Dewey2 02-15-2004 09:10 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
well you asked for the good setup? two stroke don't go with 3d. but i would say to get were a two stroke makes power a apc 12.25/3.75 if it will turn 14,500+ with it satio 100 16/4 10,000 much different in it.

i really don't think you will like the plane with a two stroke. it was made for a four stroke .


also a satio or ys is much more than a peice of metal. much more indead.

smokingcrater 02-16-2004 05:09 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
everyone mentioned you need a 4 stroke, no one said why...

better braking, swings a larger prop (more stable), better power at lower rpm and better transition, anyone else think of any others?

joebob 02-16-2004 06:36 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
They sound cool!

motodude11 02-17-2004 03:55 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
webra 50gt is the perfect motor for this plane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 STROKES FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!! on a dirtbike or in a plane a two stroke kicks you know what!!!!! Hey just my 2 cents

Josh

Capt_Kc 02-17-2004 06:49 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
IMHO, I would go with the Saito 91. The money is worth it if you can afford it. For the weight/hp ratio, you can't argue. I used to run a OS50sx swinging a 12x4 zinger prop on it and it flew but no hover or vertical climb. Yea a two stroke has turn up speed, but a 4 stroke has the horse power to swing a big prop critical for 3D. I'm using an APC 15x4W prop. I can take off and roll about 10 feet and pull back and go straight vertical. Awsome power for the plane. The only time you want to throw the gas to this motor is ONLY in vertical climb. DON'T do it in horizontal or decline flight!

OH yea..... it sounds cool! hehe

joebob 02-18-2004 09:14 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
I love the Saito .91 in mine, and I've never been one to say something has too much power, but I could go vert all day and never use over 1/2 throttle. Most of the time I'm just a few clicks above idle. I'm gonna do an experiment next time I get out to the field. I'm gonna pull it into a hover, then count the clicks above idle I am. When I get back on the ground, I'm gonna tach the engine at that throttle level and see what RPM it takes to hover it.

raptorbob 02-26-2004 09:54 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
I had a ys .63 in mine and it didn't have what was needed. I then went to a Saito 100 with a 15x4 prop and 20/20 fuel. Now the plane is fun to fly and has the power this plane needs.

Cowplane 02-29-2004 07:08 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
I have one with a Saito 72 with a APC 15x4w prop running 30% heli fuel. More than enough power and the weight savings help a lot with flight performance. Great plane to help with your 3D practice.

bentgear 02-29-2004 07:14 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
Cowplane, are you sure thats not a 14 x 4W on that 72?

Ed M.

DMehalko 02-29-2004 11:44 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 

IMHO, I would go with the Saito 91. The money is worth it if you can afford it. For the weight/hp ratio, you can't argue. I used to run a OS50sx swinging a 12x4 zinger prop on it and it flew but no hover or vertical climb. Yea a two stroke has turn up speed, but a 4 stroke has the horse power to swing a big prop critical for 3D. I'm using an APC 15x4W prop. I can take off and roll about 10 feet and pull back and go straight vertical. Awsome power for the plane. The only time you want to throw the gas to this motor is ONLY in vertical climb. DON'T do it in horizontal or decline flight!
Im gonna have to aggree. They swing the larger props needed for 3d.
The instance that i can think of using a 2 stroke over a 4 stroke is in racing airplanes, they have the higher rpm for those greater speeds while the 4 strokes got the tourqe.

David-

UcanDo 3D/w Satio 1.00

sensei 03-01-2004 07:55 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
Hello Tomi

I have a UCD 46 with a OS 50 and a APC 12x4 prop, and this thing rocks. the Evo 61 should be a very good choice. You live in Austin, and I`m down the road in San Antonio, if you want to fly before you buy, I will let you fly mine. This will allow you to make a educated decision.

Bob Sawyer

CLTFlyer 03-01-2004 06:19 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
A good friend of mine runs a YS .63 on his UCD.46. He has had nothing but great performance with this set-up. The YS is a bit pricey but worth it. I bought the exact set-up for myself a few days ago and cant wait for it to get to my door step so i can get it put together and in the air!

Hypter 03-02-2004 12:21 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3D 46 Engine Question
 
I had to agree on the 4-Strokes. I have a Saito72 on mine with a 14x4w APC. That Evolution engine may be cheaper than a Saito, and I have heard its a good engine and a great price. But the price your going to pay is the weight of the engine, 26oz -- around 10oz heavier than the Saito. This is definetly a plane you want to keep light. If a Saito is out of your price range, check out some of the other 4-Strokes, Magnum and TT make nice ones at decent prices.

BTW, the Evolution .61 was on my list of engine choices for this plane.


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