RE: Lanier Yak
 

It's simple... they built the protoype... it is VERY common for the factory to hand select the materials for the prototype to please the manufacturer...

They got the best of the best... then there is always some leeway with loadouts and scale accuracies...

RE: Lanier Yak
 

I was easily able to repair the antirotation dowel/rib problem. I eventually pulled out the two broken rib pieces after I had been able to detach the dowel (alum tube). I then reassembled the rib with some epoxy and clamped it tight. I then reinstalled the rib piece into the wing, using the long stab tube instead of the antirotation tube to guide it in. I used a q-tip and applied some gorilla glue to the wing sheeting and the rib edges and manuevered it into place. It is rock-solid now. Now concerns on my end.

Peter

RE: Lanier Yak
 

I just got back from the RC Flea Market at perry Ga.
I'll give you guys three guesses and the first two don't count as to what the prize to be given away was. :D
BTW...I left before the drawing was held...my phone hasn't rang yet. :(

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Hi Guys
The packageing is NOT a result of COST issues in the building of the kit.....the fuse box is as big as can be and meet the UPS shipping requirements....if its one ince bigger the cost to ship the fuse alone goes to 100.0 .....as for the flying weight of the plane,mine is not done but seems very light....I just put togather an Air Wild Edge they say it will be 16-17 lbs....I added absolutley NOTHING extra and my with a DA50 weighs 18.8 dry!!!! I must say however it flys great and will hoover at LESS than 1/3 throutle.....We sometimes go to bashing before we have all of the facts.....

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Uh, has anyone flown this Lanier Yak 87" yet? So far a lot of speculation, nothing in the air. I just made a deal on a ZDZ 60 I'm hoping will have enough sauce to propell this Yak upwards. Flying reports, anyone?

RE: Lanier Yak
 

A question for the guys well on their way in the building process of the Yak...I am just getting started on mine due to a heavy work schedule at the company I work for. The question: The manual shows the servo output shafts toward the leading edge of the wing for the ailerons and not towards the ail's themselves, how did you guys place them and for what reason? I have always put them toward the ail's.
I appreciate your input.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

I am just at that point myself. The pushrods they supply are for putting the shaft furthest away from the hingeline.

This distance is not very far at all, so I will stick with it... Sometimes the distance seems exhorbitant and I'll flip the servo shaft closest to keep the pushrod as short as possible... I'll still switch to ball links and DuBro HD arms though...

Shorter runs almost require ball links so there is no bind... longer is better if you are using clevises because they have less side to side play.

If you were gonna use H9 Titanium prolink pushrods and ball links, then you could easily flip them and go shorter.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Thanks Maudib, I am going to use ball links on the servos. I will try both setup's to see which way is the best one for the least amount of binding.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

HI GUYS
DO NOT set your engine at 6.25 inchs from the fire wall....THIS is inccorrect!!!! it should be at LEAST 7.0........
Regards Yogi...and for the weigh issue mine is 17.5 ALL up dry!!!! As for the rest of the LAnier Yak!!! ITs butt kickin and W
ILL be a GREAT flyer!!!

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Thats' great news 32Hybo,

Tell us what your setup is and any changes fromthe manual you did...

RE: Lanier Yak
 

patternman Wrote:
Uh, has anyone flown this Lanier Yak 87" yet? So far a lot of speculation, nothing in the air. I just made a deal on a ZDZ 60 I'm hoping will have enough sauce to propell this Yak upwards. Flying reports, anyone?

Patternman,
See post 322.
Not much to go on, was hoping to get out again this weekend but the weather gods crapped on me once again with winds in the 30 -40 mile per hour range..Yah Yah , I know ,:DI'm a wimp !!
Should have dragged the nine pound Curare out of storage. She don't mind the wind at all ;)
Anyhow, I'm running a 3W 70 and have all the nuts this thing needs and then some. I am sure that sixty will pull this thing with authority.I have been admiring that thing for a while now and it sure looks sweet. A little over four pound, with a Menz 24-8 !
Yesss!

RE: Lanier Yak
 

pcsol, are you the only one in the air? Anyone else? I've been following this thread since it started. Just curious to hear flying reports.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

32hybo.
Did you lightenyours or build stock? Did you use a DA-50? Balance problems?
Chris

RE: Lanier Yak
 

He is building it stock.....Using a DA 50....I'm not sue about his balance.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Following is edited because I misunderstood 32 Hybos post:

Then I REALLY would like him to share his setup... because the plane I received will not make 17.5 lbs stock with a DA50. Not 12 lbs out of box.

Often "stock" is thrown about then things like "Well I didn't use wheel pants or a spinner, 720 mah lipoly ont he receiver, no switches I just plug it in, I'm 2" behind CG but I like them that way, etc." are heard after the fact.

I also am VERY curoius about his balance with the DA50... as with 3 oz eliminated from the tail I could put one servo inthe tail for rudder. (A pull-pull is not "stock") but I'll STILL have to be careful in placing things far forward.

I think I would be delighted to find I have the exception to the rule... but it seems several others have the same 12 lbs out of box.. with maybe 4 oz lost in drying.

4 lbs of engine/ignition/muffler/ign. battery and about a pound of servos... get's you almost to 17 lbs alone.

Spinner & prop alone are often 1/2 lb +

Then receiver, battery, extensions, switches, fuel tubing, velcro, epoxy, decals, etc?

Anyways.. would LOVE to know what his setup is that got him to 17.5 lbs "stock"...

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Dave, don't beat yourself up trying to figure this one out, I know how you feel, it drives me crazy too. I weighed my AM yak right to the gram. I know exactly what it will weigh when finished, or i guess I should say I know the min. weight. But thats my plane, my choice of what I used or didnt use, and my scale. Were not all playing by the same rules here, and not that we have too.

You hear about planes that come in liter and you quickly find out they don't have a spinner, no wheel pants just like you said. Another thing, not everybody has a good scale, they could be using a fish scale for all you know. And lastly, I have see as much as a couple ounce difference from one wing to another and one stab to another on ARF's. If there can be that much difference in a wing, you have to wonder how much the fus can differ from one kit to another. I'll bet that there could be as much as 1/2 pound difference from one plane to another. Now add all these variables together, ie not using all the stock componants, scale inaccuracies, and inconsistant weight planes, you can easily have somebody claiming to have a plane 1 pound liter. (and it very well could be)

john

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Editied... I misunderstood 32Hybos' intent and message...

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Well i decided to pull off the bottom covering this past weekend and take out most of the bottom sheeting in the fuse. At this point I'm not sure how much came out, seeing as how my good calabrated scale is at work and I wasn't able to weigh in first then cut out the wood. All I can say is I will see if all up weight stays down, hoping for 16.5 range, once finsished with ALL mods. I may fly it this weekend, but with no CF parts and a friends ZDZ 50. I'm fixing a slight mis-hap to his GP Patty, so the engine has become temporarily available. While his engine was off I weighed Engine, ignition, muffler, stand-offs, screws prop and prop hub bolts and got 4 lbs 12 oz. Right now the completed airframe, minus wheels and wheel pants and canopy plastic, with 2 servos and 2 extensions weighs in at 11 lbs 4 oz. I need 8 oz in servos still (1 per ail and 1 rud for 6 servos total) 4 oz in Li-Po batteries, 4 oz in reciever and extensions, switch and voltage requlator. Ther eis 5 oz for the canopy and 3 oz for the wheels. This should put me at 17.5 lbs for this weekend. Once I get the CF stuff, I should be in the 16.75 lbs range. We'll see. Anyway it will be almost 3 lbs lighter the TOC Yaks at my field, with a a larger wing area. Should be a beauty. I can't wait to fly it.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Did ya keep the wood you cut out? Maybe you coulda weighed that...

Depending on how far you went, I'm guessing 4 oz... maybe a liytle more

RE: Lanier Yak
 

And didn't take no pictures for the viewers at home did ya? ;)

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nope, sorry. My digi camera is broke, would have had to used a friends, but it was a spur of the moment type thing. I was bored sitting at home and decided to do it.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

I don't know how that feels... :)

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Guy,s
I AM building it as it came out of the BOX other than the PULL-PULL....if thats the show stopper GEE SORRY>>>>>> What I did was take the airplane as I had it finished up to yesterday.....threw ALL of the rest of the componets and thats EVERYTHING wheel pants linkages and etc...INCLUDING the packageing in a box and put it on my DIgi scales....it was 17.8 my thinking was there was at least .3 of extra weight due to the packaging of the other parks ,extra servo arms and etc I think 17.5 is reasonable... I did do a prelim on the CG I think it would be a strecth to get it to CG with the DA 50 with the engine back an inch farther than it has to be however I am SURE it will CG with the engine in the proper placment. I am using 3 LI ION bats with 3 harness's and a DA 50 with the slimline pitts....For all of you Na sayers I am using the same scales the I weighed my Wild HAre Edge on at 18.8....if they are weighing light the the Wild Hare must be a real pig!!! And for the guy that pissed because I dont stay on my PC 24 -7 I must tell YOU I have a job in between flying!!!

RE: Lanier Yak
 

32hybo,
Did you by chance weigh your airframe before you started building? Mine weighed a little over 12 lbs. I'll be using a MVVS 58 and I'm expecting around 20 lbs. dry, built stock.

RE: Lanier Yak
 

Editied because I misunderstoof 32Hybo's message:

3 Lions? Wow... all I can say is you got a very light one. Te again, do a final weigh in after it's RTF... sometimes it's easy to forget 18" of Tygon, a "T", Fule dot, and a bunch of misc. stuff...

Just can't imagine how I have removed over 1/2 lb, using stock muffler (<5oz) and 1 Lion/1 nimh, and leaving the 4 oz of wheel pants off, and you're still gonna be lighter than I am... maybe there is something more to your setup PLUS you gopt a lighter plane...

Well anyway that's great... but based on the average of us guys weighing the parts from the get go... you're is the exception... 18.5 lbs built stock will be the norm and that's with basic equipment... nothing extra for lightening.

Well regardless, you and I will be pretty much similar in weight... we should have a good time.