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airega1 12-29-2005 07:51 AM

Tucson shootout
 
My son and I just watched both videos on the shootout, and I thought it was very well put together. Chip Hyde didn't do as well as would be expected, but he was as down to earth as anyone could be. Quiche was totally awesome, as was Mike McConville, Bill Hemple, and just about everyone else that performed. My three personal favorites were,

1, Jason Noll- very radical
2, Christophe Paysant- smoothest manuevers ever!
3, Jason Shulman- all or nothing style

As I think back on the vids, it's really hard to pick favorites especially over Quiche Sominzini. Andrew Jesky was very impressive, and let's not forget Frazer Briggs.

I rate the shootout video a 9.9

Frank A Rega




























Flyinhi1 01-02-2006 01:40 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
Quiche? I think that's what my wife likes:D. I was there and it was windy as hell and awesome just the same. Unbelievable piloting going on.

airega1 01-02-2006 11:15 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
LOL, OK it's Quique and not Quiche

Banche 01-02-2006 03:48 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
I got the vids for christmass but it wasnt as good as I expected.

Aure it was really good and the filming of the planes was awsome but I remember seeing lots of film from the event like of Kyle Woyshnis and others of Mark Leesberg and other people that had better flying that some of the flrrstyles on that dvd.

I thought the guy that cleaned pools was hilarious though, he didnt fly all that well.

quist 01-04-2006 02:17 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
The video was from 2004. Kyle and Marks internet video was from 2005.

ORIGINAL: Banche

I got the vids for christmass but it wasnt as good as I expected.

Aure it was really good and the filming of the planes was awsome but I remember seeing lots of film from the event like of Kyle Woyshnis and others of Mark Leesberg and other people that had better flying that some of the flrrstyles on that dvd.

I thought the guy that cleaned pools was hilarious though, he didnt fly all that well.

MMcConville 01-04-2006 09:29 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
Where can I find video of Mark's freestyle from 2005?

50%plane 01-04-2006 12:21 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
The cirkus had them, but since they switched over to the new site, they haven't gotten them up yet if ever. You might be better to find someone to Email them to you.



Woops:)

jongurley 01-04-2006 05:05 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
I have got it saved to my computer MIKE if you want it,, i guess i could email it, Can I just copy it from my desktop and attach it to a email, if that is possible give me or pm me your email Mike and I will send it to you,,,

STG 01-04-2006 06:00 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
Sorry it did not work for you.[:@]


50%plane 01-04-2006 10:16 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
The Cirkus version is much better quality.


Woops:)

strulag 01-05-2006 08:16 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
The production, the interviews and the plane shots were awsome but didn't like the filming. The camera alaways had a hard time staying on the plane. I was getting dizzy watching it.

STG 01-05-2006 11:21 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
[X(]

STG 01-05-2006 11:23 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 


ORIGINAL: strulag

The production, the interviews and the plane shots were awsome but didn't like the filming. The camera alaways had a hard time staying on the plane. I was getting dizzy watching it.
Overall it was very good. If I wanted to be critical, I did not like how the motor sound seemed to be off from what the plane was doing sometimes.[&:] Maybe this was just me.



STG 01-05-2006 11:28 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 


ORIGINAL: Banche
I thought the guy that cleaned pools was hilarious though, he didnt fly all that well.
Are you talking about Yuri? He was no doubt having some off days. I am sure he was not flying at 100%. I thought his upward inverted flat spin was great & his very HA KE hover.

I thought that Mike McConville guy did pretty good. :D

These guys are all at such a high level competition is very stiff.


marmitas 01-05-2006 05:09 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
The only true "film" made about our sport.
Awesome!
J. Noll- robbed as usual. Varying speed rolls were sweet.
CPLR- soooooooo smoooooooth
Hemple is a freak!...so fast and powerfull.
I liked Chip's tumbling sequence with the big Yak...to "Roller Coaster".
Good stuff...finally a film to share with non-modelers.

50%plane 01-05-2006 05:13 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
CPLR could fly his sequence blindfolded. (He's flown the same sequence for years.)

strulag 01-05-2006 06:11 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
Who's CPLR?

STG 01-05-2006 06:54 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 


ORIGINAL: strulag
Who's CPLR?
Christophe Paysant

Guy who took 1st. Remember he did the same routine as the 2000 TOC tape?

strulag 01-05-2006 07:48 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
I remember now. That totally confused me. I was thinking is this from last year? I imagine they work for a long time to select the music, come up with the manuvers then construct a routine to the music. At least the pros.

50%plane 01-05-2006 09:36 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 


ORIGINAL: strulag

I remember now. That totally confused me. I was thinking is this from last year? I imagine they work for a long time to select the music, come up with the manuvers then construct a routine to the music. At least the pros.
Even so, the judges would probably have followed the SA scene and most likely had seen his routine before, thus giving them prior knowledge of what to look for. I know that in watching all the Tucson vids on my harddrive hundreds of times, I can pick out all the mistakes.


Woops:)

MMcConville 01-06-2006 10:29 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
How do you make a msitake in a freestyle routine woops? Short of crashing or crossing the dead line.

On the video, I think it is absolutely awesome. The only thing about it that is a little off IMHO is that it gives the impression from all of the flying footage used that the Shootout was a Freestyle contest, when in reality its not. Its a real, presision contest. The freestyle is a sepersate event held on the last few days and most of the folks doing the free just do it for fun and dont put in much effort to prepare. All of the prep work is to get ready for the presision part of the contest.
\Thats why CPLR's routing was the same old, as were a lot of them. Mine too. In fact even doing the freestyle for me was a last minute thing there, and this year I opted not to even bother with it.

I completely understand showing that on the vid though, the Free is a lot more entertaining to watch, but from a competitior point of view its not taken very seriously by most pilots and its not what the Shootout is about.

STG 01-06-2006 10:51 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 

ORIGINAL: MMcConville

How do you make a msitake in a freestyle routine woops? Short of crashing or crossing the dead line.

On the video, I think it is absolutely awesome. The only thing about it that is a little off IMHO is that it gives the impression from all of the flying footage used that the Shootout was a Freestyle contest, when in reality its not. Its a real, presision contest. The freestyle is a sepersate event held on the last few days and most of the folks doing the free just do it for fun and dont put in much effort to prepare. All of the prep work is to get ready for the presision part of the contest.
\Thats why CPLR's routing was the same old, as were a lot of them. Mine too. In fact even doing the freestyle for me was a last minute thing there, and this year I opted not to even bother with it.

I completely understand showing that on the vid though, the Free is a lot more entertaining to watch, but from a competitior point of view its not taken very seriously by most pilots and its not what the Shootout is about.
I was surprised at first when on the video some competitors were not really looking forward to the Freestyle part of the competition. That they had real fears about putting their planes in...flying low and aggressively was something that had to be done for the competition -- not something they looked forward to. For some reason I had this naive idea that once you got to that level it was not a concern.

Also, if they did not spend much time preparing for the Freestyle there would be even more apprehension.

I would imagine that the judging for the Freestylee a bit more subjective as well.

There is a lot that goes into these planes and if you put one in I don't imagine that is good for the score either & these guys like to win.




50%plane 01-06-2006 11:27 AM

RE: Tucson shootout
 


ORIGINAL: MMcConville

How do you make a msitake in a freestyle routine woops? Short of crashing or crossing the dead line.

On the video, I think it is absolutely awesome. The only thing about it that is a little off IMHO is that it gives the impression from all of the flying footage used that the Shootout was a Freestyle contest, when in reality its not. Its a real, presision contest. The freestyle is a sepersate event held on the last few days and most of the folks doing the free just do it for fun and dont put in much effort to prepare. All of the prep work is to get ready for the presision part of the contest.
\Thats why CPLR's routing was the same old, as were a lot of them. Mine too. In fact even doing the freestyle for me was a last minute thing there, and this year I opted not to even bother with it.

I completely understand showing that on the vid though, the Free is a lot more entertaining to watch, but from a competitior point of view its not taken very seriously by most pilots and its not what the Shootout is about.
If you have bad timing any you miss where you've always gone and try to compensate for it, it looks sloppy. With that being said, I'm not a professional. Also, when judging a flight of my own,(I'm NOT even an amateur competitor) IF I were to watch any routine three times over, I could start to see where people are planning to go. Also, the same routine,(as good as it maybe) looses it's WOW factor after a while.(COMPLETELY BORING TO WATCH!!!!!!) Watch Kyle's Tucson vids back to back. They start out similar, but they take on a completely different direction. (New music and different maneuvers.[complete WOW factor])


Woops:)

VanWidick 01-06-2006 03:12 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
There are a few videos at [link=http://www.tulsa3d.com]www.tulsa3d.com[/link]


[8D]

MMcConville 01-06-2006 03:16 PM

RE: Tucson shootout
 
That kind of makes my point about the Shootoout vs what it appeared to be in the video. The Freestyle wasnt a part of the competition, it was a seperate event like it is done at all IMAC contests. This years shootout was also the same. Most top pilots dont put much into the freestyle and when it doesnt matter at all as part of the primary competition put even less into it.
Events like the TOC and the Don Lowe Masters have Freestyle as part of the total score so it does matter, even though there its still only 10% to 15% of the total score. For tose events freestyle has to be flown so more time will be put into preparing for it and doing a good job.
At the Shootoout though, its not the case. Personally I had more fun at this past Shootout just watching it and not flying in it.


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