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I like my Mercedes...absolutely the best customer service I have ever seen and I'll gladly pay extra for that.

I used to fly for Rosie O'Gradys Flying Cirkus in Orlando Fl back in the early 90's doing skywriting and airshows in Super Stearmans and Agcat bipes and the occasional stint in the odd Extra 300 or Cap232. I got my aerobatic training from Mike Goulian in an Extra 300 and Cap232. I've been lucky enough to have Col Joe Kittinger as my inital instructor in the mid 80's and also did a lot for the Make a Wish foundation out of Orl Exec Airport

We got into a thing with the FBO there where I had a 182 converted to handle wheelchairs and would take the kids on low and slow flights for what was supposed to be 15 minutes but depending on the kid, sometimes it lasted for an hour at a time. I have to tell you that out of all I did in full scale and so far in RC, working with those kids was the best thing I have ever done. They gave me so much joy just by hanging out with them. I was a part time limo drive during that time so I got to meet a lot of them. We never got paid for what we did but just seeing them enjoy themsleves and knowing what they were in for was just the most amazing thing I have ever been a part of

I was diagnosed with thin walled arteries going into my heart at 40 years old after a heart attack and mild stroke so that blew my medical out so I have not been PIC for a long time. I never did any line flying, thank god...that woul have4 drove me nuts

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Well, Bubba, you're memory hasn't gone.... Yes, ALL of my airplanes, ARE exclusively 5955's, and I will not run anything else in a large airplane. There ain't a gear set out there that holds up as well, and that is worth a premium to me because it means "uptime", and "reduced maintenance". Both of those are classic "good things".

Re battery consumption - I just converted to A123 cells, using the FMA Cell Pro charger. That configuration does a real FINE job of analyzing capacity, and measures the ma put back.

The other day, I flew a lot of high-ly stressful, high G aerobatics on my Cap. Total of 70 minutes airtime. Total ma used was 895. And that was 8 flights. So... my 5955's drew about 110 mah through those flights. Meaning that the 2300 mah capactity of the A123's left me PLENTY to spare.

Next up --- +5v, fast response, 5A linear regulator to permit me to run my ignition off the A123 Rx pack. Thus dumping the ignition battery. Another "good thing"..... assuming it works. I'll post back with results after I run some tests.

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All great info there Bob [sm=thumbs_up.gif]

I'll be gone the rest of the evening and all weekend folksd. Gotta go get my butt whooped in Intermediate by a 10 yr old again [sm=red_smile.gif]

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Dumb question ...

I just started putting together my Cap and have made an interesting observation. There is very little wood in the fuselage sides, making it kind of difficult to mount things like switches. There is one small square cut-out that you can use to mount a switch, but where are you suppose to put the second switch for the ignition? I always thought you should keep the ignition "stuff" at least 12' away from the other electronics. I can't seem to figure out where to put the second switch.

Anyone ????

Pictures would be nice (please). :D

-R

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add extra lite ply to the side and you can add all the switches and bat charger connect you want. i add the ignition switch in the top part of the removibale cowl. if you want any pic gust say so. and i will put some up.

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well, after 2 months of gathring parts, breaking in a new engine and assembling the plane I am finally ready to maiden my Cap tomorrow. This is the most advanced plane I have ever owned and assembled. In a way it will be a test bed for me and gasoline engines as well as giant scale planes.

Dl-50 engine
Xoar prop 22-6
J'tec pitts muffler (large Chamber)
Digital Hitec 5645 servos
carbon fiber push rods (all control surfaces)
Spektrum radio
Elite HR-1500 High Rate Rx 6v 7.5 impedence (wow is this thing light)

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Hey guys, here's a general contruction question (I'm sort of new to ARF's). In the step were you glue the stab in the tail, how do you actually glue it in without smearing epoxy all over the stab as you slide it in? It seems to me, that no matter what/how you do it, you'll end up with glue all over the stab (at least one half of it). And since the glue will be spread out thin, will there actually be enough glue left on the blasa to hold it firmly?

Did that make sense?

Did you use epoxy, or CA or polyglue?


Thanks.

-R

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I used 30 minute epoxy then used denatured alcohol to clean up the mess on the other half of the stab. there is really no getting around it. Now when you do this some of the glue is going to be wiped away so what I did is cut the covering under the stab before the glue dried and mixed a little more 30 minute and added it in a nice fillet on the stab and fuselage sides. Mine has held up to the pounding I give it ever since and all you will have is a very small patch on the bottom at the back

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I used Gorilla Glue. Applied thin coat to fuselage opening parts, thin coat to stab. Let it "cook" for about 5 minutes, wiped off MOST of the excess, and slid it home. Taped/pinned/braced to hold alignment. Couple of wipes of excess during curing, being careful not to bump alignment. Perfect.

It is incredibly strong, as I have done some pretty unreal things that would twist a tail off if it wasn't well glued. There are lots of ways to do it.... mine is one.

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gnirwin - your combo will be absolutely incredible. Be sure to report back here after you get the smile off your face and can type without laughing..... you are gonna LOVE it.... trust me.

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Yep, full power tumbles are one way to verify the stab is on good and strong as well as the wing mounting bolt area is glued good and tight

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Another was is to use a small syringe to squirt the 30 min epoxy in and then a small amount of clean up afterward.

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Use blue masking tape on your stab and around the stab opening. Once you have it in you can easily pull the blue tape off without harming the covering and all of the excess glue/epoxy will come off with it.

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Thanks guys for all the suggestions.

I'm going in with Gorilla glue, masking tape, and clean paper towels.

Let's hope for the best. [:@]


=R

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You'll do just fine. Hint from Chris Hinson about paper towels for wiping excess glue.... and works REALLY well. Tear the paper towel into 2" squares. Fold into shapes needed, make small wipe, throw away, get another. I thought this was insane until I tried it. It permits MUCH cleaner wipe-off of the excess, and doesn't smear it around.

Trust me - this is for real - and works just outstanding.

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Anyone think a Super Tigre 3000 would fly this plane? I have an Italian made one without a home. It came off of a 20 some odd pound 100 inch wingspan crop duster looking plane that it flew nicely.....vertical wasn't the greatest but this plane will be a lottttt lighter.

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Would it fly it? Yes, but it does put out less power and weigh more then the O.S. 160 so I doubt you would enjoy the results if you have 3-D in mind.

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Thanks Lou....I was just wonder for right now. Knowing me I'd be hunting for a new power plant in short order. I'd like to get really good 3D out of it, especially hovering....any suggestions on something extremely reliable? I know we are dealing with RC engines either way, but what would most guys use that are 3D proficient?

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Okay --- I'll get the popcorn.
Let the show begin!
:D

(Gas or glow??)

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You trouble maker ;):D J/K I jsut got a huge plate of roasted peanuts as I'm out of popcorn and I'm way too lazy at the moment to go buy some

I saw over in the Spektrum thread where you did a mod on a 2.4 module. Do you have any pics by chance of that, I just got the module for the 10x and while it's working great if I could bury the wire to the antenna that would be the cats meow

CowboyLifesaver,

I'd do a DL50 (it's very close to the same price as a good OS160 and they are getting great reviews since they got a US dist.)or Da50 and never look back...but then I'm all gas these days, even on the 4*120 ARF (yes I said ARF, they came out with it about 2 weeks ago) I just ordered...

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Not at all Bob. If the guys wants to 3D the thing he's going to have to go with gas. If he wants to do it inexpensively he'll have to buy a 3MM 53cc or a DL-50. I don't think glow even comes into it unless you're already VERY good at 3D like Vinny or Kyle. I tell you what CowboySaver, my 3MM puts out 25 pounds of static thrust with a Vess 22A and I just bought a DL-50 that I plan on running a Vess 23A on. Based on the size of the plane I would say the 3MM would be better as it is very compact for the great power it puts out and would fit in the cowl nicely but the DL-50 would also be fine. Just a lot more cylinder sticking out of the bottom of your cowl. Mind you, with the DL you can use DA tuned pipes. Now how's that for summing it up???:D:D:D

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I have a DL 50 on my Cap. No head fins sticking out, just the plug connector. The cowl is sharply radius right in front of the fins, and it makes a good opening for air.

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I'd never have enough time to break in either one of those properly. I'll probably end up getting the 160 with it. I'm not really a gas guy. I still have one of those huge Lanier Extra 330L's 87" (3.0 to 4.8) that is just a shell with no working parts. Needs flying gear and landing gear straightened and tires mounted and a tail wheel, and maybe some covering patches here and there, but that's about it. A guy was going to trash it. Just never got excited for gassers.

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Cowboy,

Understand your thoughts but just to clarify something for you. You do not have to "break in" a gas engine on the ground. That is usually done in the air from the first minute and is all about the type and mix of oil used. Typically 30:1 top 32:1 of some brand of petrolium based oil for 5 or 10 gallons followed by some brand of synthetic.

The OS160 will do just fine on this plane

I also gotta ask you about your username, does it stand for being a rodeo clown especially since their main job is exactly what your username stands for? Just curious :D

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That's what it means...............I'm also at 5000 feet would that 160 still do the trick?

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You get the wrong side of that bull and you'll be at 5020 feet!!! LOL Let me know if you're looking for a cheap 160 though.

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That is definitely the altitude side. My record is 16 feet high for vertical. 20 feet for horizontal with a slight arch into the 4' to 5 ' vertical on the way. My left foot in this picture is just touching the ground, that was my landing from getting a few inches of vertical in the picture before this one that I wasn't allowed to have, becaus the lady's son was under the bull and the bull was in my chest. I'm just wondering about the altitude here being 5000' with the 160, but the right prop should make her work?

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Bubbagates could answer that better for you. I've only ever flew at sea-level.

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I've flown my old 160 at altitudes of 3000 feet on 15% with a APC 18x6W prop and it did well. The other 2000' might be an issue

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I always ran mine with an APC 18x6W on YS 20/20 but have no idea about altitudes. Maybe I should drive one up in the mountains one day. God knows we have enough of those! LOL

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Hey all, Long time, no Cap chat. This thing called a job has been seriously getting into my flyin time. Heck, I havent even flown my AW Yak yet! Cowboy, as for the 160 in the Cap, I'm very happy with mine, its a blast to fly. Granted mine came in at 12lbs 3 oz. Bet it would be a huge blast with the DL50 that Aerobob has. Humm, I do have another cowl for it. Thinking hard about picking up a DL for this Cap if it last me this summer, but with the little flyin I'm doin, wont be a problem.:( What are you going to put the DL in Lou?

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I got an SD Models Extra 260 from Chief. Should be sweet!! Glad to hear all is well with you and yours! Don't feel bad, I've been doing house upgrades all summer and haven't got to fly either. LOL

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SD Models Extra 260 you say????? I'm about 90% sure thats my next plane! Always wanted a 260, read good things about SD models. Dang, we must be thinking alike..scarey huh?:D

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got a question............... I just purchased an assembled, new 80 cap and it came with heavy steel 1/4-20 bolts (4) holding the wing on, are these stock? can they be replaced with lighter nylon bolts?

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Most definately!!! Must be kindred spirits. Anyway, I'll keep in touch and let you know how the build goes just in case you get one.

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I have nylon 1/4-20's holding the wing on my Hangar 9 Mustang 60 size that does 120-130 mph. Mind you the gear is mounted in the wing as well, and sometimes I carry a payload on my special hard point that is pretty heavy. I have also carried a parachute GI Joe guy on it. The nylons seem to hold up well, got mine at Home Depot, not those cheapy plastics looking ones. I got rid of the steel ones on that with no problems.

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I have a burning question....Where is the CG on the cap with the 160/pitts setup? Also how'd you get that canopy smoked like that Al....that looks better than having a pilot in it.

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Just use black spray paint on the inside. Doesn't matter if it's gloss or flat primer, the result is the same.