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Gone, no you really don't want to do flat spin landing. [X(] Well, at least not inverted. [:-] Just meant as a joke..... I think. Isn't it guys? [:o]
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Yes, Joke it is,i guess its just to poke fun at some of "OUR" crashes and to keep it all in perspective, which we need;)------dont we?
It is kinda neat to have the whole place to yourself Rob, just not all the time, although im like you, its fun to practice AND be able to concentrate[X(] |
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That must be the 100 on the 60. I'm thinking of getting a 100 and getting a Sig Mayhem to put it on. Probably won't fly it untill next year.
Yes, the concentration on flying is what I noticed most. In fact, some park vistitors drove up behind me so I could hear noise behind and I would find myself turning around to see who they were and what they were doing. Then I would find that I had taken my eyes off my plane. Bad idea......[X(] |
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All right guys, i need help. I have read thru most of this thread and cant find an answer.
I have a new ucan .46. Tips the scale's at 5.25 lbs. I have played with cg a little. started at 5.5 and hated the coupling in knife edge soo i moved it to 5 inch. Better but...my problem is still here. It WILL NOT HARRIER !!!!!!! Or elevator. In elevators, one time it will rock, the next it will come down pretty strait but nose down, then it will pitch up and down wildly. Never the same thing twice. I have played with spoilerons from 40 to 80% and nothing is helping!!!!!!! Knife edge is pretty good now, just a little bit of mix to get it strait. Waterfall's are pretty tight with out any flaperons. Tip spins are a little slow and nose down but not too bad. Inverted flat spins and blenders are SWEET !!! Kinda slows down too much on the flat spin, have to keep a click or two of motor on to keep them going. Rolling harriers need VERY little tail input to keep it going. Kinda like a foamy. It just seems that every time i get into high Alfa flight, its a crap shoot on what will happen. Very unstable. Maybe i need more throw in the elevator?? I am gonna put a new arm on the servo and see if i can get more but, was hoping some one here could help. Normal flying is fine to pretty good. Does get blown around a little in the wind but, not too bad. Tracks pretty good for a funfly. Anyway, thanks for any help in advance. DK |
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:)da king...Mine won't elevator or harrier very well either. It's certainly not one of the strong points of this plane. One thing I suspect is servo strength. Do you have enough torque? Just a thought. There's a lot of elevator there and a very long tail. Takes a lot of servo to hold it all up. My CG is at about 5 5/8" back. KE is compromised a little but I like everything else about it so I just manage the sticks as best I can on KE. Flat spins are the best with this thing. The only plane that does them better is the Mayhem and/or Twist. I can do a rising flat spin and the inverted flat spin landing with this plane. No joke.
gjeffers...your cowl is missing. CeeGee...You'd like the Mayhem,,,,,,You really would. I've got the repair of my 46 done. At least the body work. Now I've got to mount the engine, which won't be here until tomorrow and mount the radio gear, balance the plane, cuss the extra weight, rebalance the plane, check the lateral balance, cuss the weight, rebalance the plane, accept the weight, trim out the radio stuff, apply a new decal somewhere, and do the maiden on Saturday. No problem....But I'm not saying what Saturday. Thanks BArry |
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:)After...Ready for radio gear installation...Oh and the blue stripe. Will do that tonight.
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Thanks for the help Barry.
I have watched the elevator when doing these manuvers and yes, i have enough tork. Guess its off to find a new plane. DK |
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:)daking...I hope your not looking at a new plane because you've had a bad experience with the UCD. I really like the plane.
The one plane I have that harriers pretty darn good and does a great KE is the Showtime. I could highly recommend that one. I'm currently flying a Harrier 3D. It doesn't harrier much better than the UCD. But I'm still new with it and might just need more practice. Thanks Barry |
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yep, looking for a new plane.
Just got back from a flight. Dead calm out. Yep, the plane is still a pile! I tried 90% spoilerons and it still rocked, plus i ran out of elevator. Hovers are a little tricky still but, the slight lack of power didnt help it either. All in all, this plane has been a pretty big disapointment. The air frame, the power train. Dont get me wrong, the plane "flys" pretty good! But the 3D is worse than the 2 funtana's and the SIG SE i have had before it. Anyway, thanks for all your help. DK |
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Yes, i would love a Show time but, i am limited to .40 size. I thought i saw an add for a .40 but, guess not.
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Just a follow-up about the new Magnum XL.70 4-stroke I installed in my UCD.46 last weekend. I flew it 3 time yesterday morning, for a total of 6 flights on the new engine. I was a bit nervous, wondering if the first 3 flights earlier this week were a fluke when the inverted engine ran perfectly. Well, I'm happy to report that it wasn't a fluke; the engine ran flawlessly on all 3 flights, even to the point of idling perfectly on taxi-back after landing, right up to my feet. It just sits there at a complete stop, happily idling away! This is my first 4-stroke engine and I'm stoked!
On the 3rd flight, I leaned the engine a tiny bit more (it's still pretty rich and leaves a nice smoke trail) and the power picked up a little bit more. The compression has definitely improved since the first flight. I see more 4-stroke engines in my future. -Kaos |
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DAking, sorry to hear it's not working out for you. It sounds like you are way better at flying then the Do can handle. While it's not the best 3D er out there it will do a good job for most people out there. You're probably better than most people....[X(]
Kaos, So glad to hear you are having fun with the 4 stroke. They are a different animal than the two's and lead into a whole different type of flying experience..... Hey Barry, I think I have a Mayhem coming my way. I saw one on the market and made an offer for it. I might not fly it though untill next summer though. I'm kind of pushing myself to fly better before I step up to a larger plane. I still don't do the inverted low passes like Gary does. [>:] |
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yea, thats right CEEGEE, the ucd is only for us guys that have a lot of learning still(me anyways) not for the pro's, to much wing id say:eek:
hey Kaos, what do ya think about four strokes??? (pretty nice huh!!!!) Barry, what is all that jr stuff on your plane?, are a you Bi-servo guy:) |
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:)gjeffers...not really bi servo (don't have anything against JR) I use mostly HiTec with a Futaba thrown in here and there. My youngest son is named JR. Kinda fun for him to see his name on the plane.
I've got all the servos mounted in the repair now and I received the engine today. I'm going to give it a few minutes on the bench before I install it in the plane. But the engine mount is already drilled so once I get a little time on the engine I'll be ready to fly this baby. Just came up from the basement a few minutes ago after trimming the surfaces out. Takes me an hour or two to do that. But, I guess the positive is I don't have hardly any trimming on my first flights. I've looked over this repair very closely and I can't see any curves, curls, etc that might make it not fly good. I'm anxious to get my new weight. Before I crashed this baby it was my lightest at 6lbs 12 1/2 ozs. I'm hoping to keep it under 6. I added quite a few trusses etc and some glue so I don't know if that's possible but we'll see. I'm looking forward to getting this little jewel in the air again. Oh, there's a guy asking a few questions over in the beginners forum if you want to discuss. I invited him here. Hopefully he'll show. Thanks Barry |
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:)Oh, the original crash with this plane was an attempted KE landing. I don't recommend them...stick with the inverted flat spin landings.
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sounds good Barry. let us know how it goes and post some pictures if you get a chance. [8D]
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I have all 4 ucd and thay all donot like harrier Iv been told that the srate wing cord is the reson any way I been playing whith mixes on the giant ucd and found that harrier is best at crow mix it still not that grate but at les it well do it.I have saito 100 on my 46 size and it flat spins all right but inverted it will do climing flat spins power makes the differance knife edge is still a bet eratic:)
ORIGINAL: da king All right guys, i need help. I have read thru most of this thread and cant find an answer. I have a new ucan .46. Tips the scale's at 5.25 lbs. I have played with cg a little. started at 5.5 and hated the coupling in knife edge soo i moved it to 5 inch. Better but...my problem is still here. It WILL NOT HARRIER !!!!!!! Or elevator. In elevators, one time it will rock, the next it will come down pretty strait but nose down, then it will pitch up and down wildly. Never the same thing twice. I have played with spoilerons from 40 to 80% and nothing is helping!!!!!!! Knife edge is pretty good now, just a little bit of mix to get it strait. Waterfall's are pretty tight with out any flaperons. Tip spins are a little slow and nose down but not too bad. Inverted flat spins and blenders are SWEET !!! Kinda slows down too much on the flat spin, have to keep a click or two of motor on to keep them going. Rolling harriers need VERY little tail input to keep it going. Kinda like a foamy. It just seems that every time i get into high Alfa flight, its a crap shoot on what will happen. Very unstable. Maybe i need more throw in the elevator?? I am gonna put a new arm on the servo and see if i can get more but, was hoping some one here could help. Normal flying is fine to pretty good. Does get blown around a little in the wind but, not too bad. Tracks pretty good for a funfly. Anyway, thanks for any help in advance. DK |
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Question: any opinions on flying with or without the cowl installed? The airplane certainly looks better with the cowl installed. I've flown it both ways. Perhaps a little less wind noise when the throttle is pulled back coming down the backside of a loop, etc. Also, don't seem to have to carry as much power during final approach to landing, but maybe I'm just dreaming. Most of the various 3D ARF's I've seen flying at our field are usually lacking the cowl.
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ORIGINAL: Kaos ORIGINAL: raideron Kaos... Glad the mag is working for you.. I've seen one run good in our last fun fly... But the three at the field is kinda iffy at low throttle... Sounds like that's not the case with yours... You'll have a ball:D Whats your thoughts between the two engines? -Kaos I was just wondering the power/torque between the Mag 4c and the Super Tigre 2c |
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Hey Gary... It's the same pic as my avtar... It was my second plane, well I
ordered it the same time as the Avistar..... I wanted to start with it, but my trainer did not..... But then said..... I guess the 4* would have been a better choice for you........ I think that's why he gave me a complete Dazzler.... I've been playing too much of "That Game: :( Like all day and nite... Da "Boss" kindly said... Guess it's R C'ing, online poker, sleep... Ohh yeah lets not forget eating[:'(].... I told her I also take the trash out[&:]... Guess the 4* is what I'll fly at our fly-in....... Unless....................... Barry... Good fix!!! Fast to....... Hey I have a project for you, think you can have it back by the 21st :D Kaos... glad the Mag is going strong.. CeeGee..... See the glues has moved :D |
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ORIGINAL: raideron I was just wondering the power/torque between the Mag 4c and the Super Tigre 2c On the other hand, the Magnum seems perfectly happy in the UCD and while it doesn't have the raw horsepower the G.61 had, it makes up for it with much better low-end torque. I had to run a flatter pitch prop (13 x 4) on the G.61 to keep the speed down while still allowing the engine to run in its power band. It just seemed too frantic and out of character for a slow flying airplane and I had to manage the power settings much, much more than I do with the Magnum. I think these slower flying 3D airplanes respond better to an engine with good low-end torque, so the 4-stroke engines are better suited to the task. -Kaos |
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Thanks Kaos... same here on 4c for 3D and more... I like the low end grunt,
sound.. and maint. is really nothing...... I may be getting another 2c but that will be for a spad combat plane, a bunch of club members are starting to get into that... I've been thinking about it... But all my other planes are 4 strokers.. Have fun!! |
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