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gjeffers 05-25-2005 05:36 PM

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heck Ron,,,, thought id learn something i could use on my friends and faqmily in case i ever get down to fish on the river;) i usually end up playing blackjack all night though[X(] sounds like your having good fortunes in the hov department, mine are still 30 sec at about 30 ft, a little lower sometimes if i want to get PUMPED:D (bet you were PUMPED doing your ground level flip flop!!!!![X(]

CeeGee, i knew because that is what i was thinking thats what id have to consider if i moved, you always have to be one step ahead of the possibilities, good thing we have two living rooms, my angel has one and i have the other(she has the tv) below is my room[sm=pirate.gif]she wont let me get rid of that ugly picture[:o]

that wasnt the cheerleader float was it Barry? mine was:D

oh, there was a Q i have, will i need a new charger if i go to a 6 volt rx batt or will the chg i have work, just slower, i have plenty of time to chg. ( im always at work[:@]).

raideron 05-25-2005 07:36 PM

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Nice UCD room Gary... If your using a 4.8v wall wart... My understanding
is it will not work on the 6v.... I use my Accucycle or fast charge with the
field charger for my UCD.... But as always I could be off base on this:-)
And as always I claim it's the heat that makes me do that...
Yeah hovering kind of came eaiser for me for some reason, first I barely
could do it, but I was trying it on my Avistar and 4*.. So I started practicing
on my AFP sim for about a week, then it just all came to light:-) So when
I started with the UCD, I thought it did it so well... But the profile... It's
like its hanging on the wall:-)

Yeah I thought it was history on my ground level flip flop, But as I keep
hearing... Keep flying it to the bitter end:-)

hockeyrules99... What profile is that?? Is the other half of the wing the
Ails:-)

hockeyrules99 05-25-2005 08:23 PM

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Raid, nope its a bipe its an OMP Boxxer. Great build so far, here's one thats on the website...off topic I know Sorry all

EL TEMUCANO 05-25-2005 09:06 PM

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NOW I USE A OS 46 AX APC 12/4,,,,,,,,,,,,,WATH DO YOU THINK ABOUT 12,25/3.75 APC ??????????'

Barry Cazier 05-25-2005 09:26 PM

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:)Raideron, Wow that's cool that you got the hovering down. I'm no where near able to tail touch. I think I can hover, but in reality it's only 20-30 seconds and then I get nervous and fall out. But I get a little better each flight. I practice every time I fly. It's fun. But tail touch, never.
gjeffers, nice room, is that a half UCD60 on the wall. I usally just cut the tails off, as you've seen in an earlier post, and my intent (although I haven't done it yet) is to glue the tails onto a wall in my garage. But hanging it on al wall is cool too.
Thanks,
Barry

raideron 05-25-2005 09:49 PM

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I remember now hockeyrules99 about your boxxer... Should have figured
it out with the narrow wings...

Barry yeah for some un-known reason prop hanging just fell in place for
me.... Guess I was just lucky on that one... Tail touching was one of my
goals, But it does get the blood pumping.... Now for an inch off the deck
high speed K.E.........

gjeffers 05-25-2005 10:00 PM

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it does look like half a plane Barry, but its the whole big do just waiting for a ys110, the tail is hid by the lamp,DARN LAMP, ill have to get rid of that!!!!![X(]

Ron, ever see that KE vid on the cirkus?i think it was an inch off the deck[&:] if not ,here it is listed under High Alpha near the bottom:D

http://www.flyingcirkus.com/videos_agree.aspx

raideron 05-25-2005 10:35 PM

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Yeah I saw that one Gary... Man coming in at that speed and dipping down
like that... Well not quite like that :-) But Man what a rush that has to be!!
Pretty strong plane huh:-)... I also like the one Kyle does with his F90 when
he leaves the tip of his aileron behind.... So much to learn, and most the
time my thumbs just will not cooperate... But I love that feeling.....

Waiting for a 110..... My 110 is waiting for a plane... We must be pretty
much in the same area:-))

rclement 05-25-2005 11:04 PM

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Nice looking room Gjeffers. That picture, is that a Thomas Kinkade? [X(] Oh, I know!! Maybe you could mount a prop on it......[8D]

gjeffers 05-26-2005 07:41 PM

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anybody elses ailerons warped? i just got to looking because ive had to add left ail for level flight so i checked the lateral balance,and the left side was heavier but that made no sence because i had to add ail to go left, so i began a very comprehensive visual:eek: and noticed that on the left ail the inside was higher and the right was lower and the outsides were opposite, wa la, they were actually creating an even reaction but just looked uneven(does this make any sense to anyone?)any suggestions on how to re-warp them back to norm, it really flys ok but i will not be able to forget it now[&:]

raideron 05-26-2005 09:08 PM

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Gary.... Have someone twist the Ail. stright or slightly more and
use a heat gun on the covering, let it cool somewhat before
releasing and it should help... I did that to mine, and also on my
profile's elevators(only one servo with bulsa that connects both
halfs) And it did the trick... Most likely have to do it again, but
it helps sometimes....

Barry Cazier 05-27-2005 12:08 AM

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:)gjeffers. That's called wing wong. It's prevelant in all your nicer airplanes. It's in there by design. Do not try and remove it. It is turned a special way given your geographic location. That's why they send some plane from Nevada and some from Illonois. It's purpose is to counteract the prevailing wind. Some of your lesser ARFs don't have this feature.
Thanks,
Barry

rclement 05-27-2005 07:27 AM

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Barry, I think that's called "wing wack" :eek: I think "wing wong" is when you put the wing on upside down. [:-]

Evil Homer 05-27-2005 07:36 AM

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Sounds along the lines of something you might eat somewhere in the far east, hmmm!

rclement 05-27-2005 09:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Evil Homer

Sounds along the lines of something you might eat somewhere in the far east, hmmm!
Oh, That could be too. I didn't think of that............:eek:

Barry Cazier 05-27-2005 10:16 AM

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:)CeeGee. You're right. I always get those two mixed up. Suffice it to say, It's a good thing.
Thanks,
Barry

raideron 05-27-2005 01:58 PM

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I think both Barry and CeeGee, Have it wong... But me no got
no antsa fo whots white... But I do believe Evil is on to somting

Well I think I'm going to slow down somewhat on tail touching..
I had 4 good ones today and on try #5 all went well so I thought
I'd pull out in a K.E..... It looked good at first, But as I increased
the rudder and the tail dropped the Rt. ail. end caught the deck:-)
soooooo it did a cartwheel.... D_m and I was having sooooo much
fun... Now I can attest to the strength of the profiles... I only had
a broken prop and the end spar of the Ail. was pushed in and it
didn't even tear the covering:-)))) Better lucky than good:-)
So added six more flts. on the UCD:-) .. Great Day over all...

v_twin1k 05-27-2005 02:36 PM

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Raideron, glad to hear you had such a good day. I'm sure those tail touches look very cool.

I unfortunately had one hard landing that ended up as shown below. What is the best way to repair and strengthen the gear? I'm sure it has been discussed before and I'll page through the other posts to see if I can find it...

Thanks,

v_twin1k

raideron 05-27-2005 03:03 PM

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v_twin1k... Yeah they will come apart if you don't strength the block..
The way I did mine ... I used 1/4 angled bulsa(4), I applied C.A. on to
the bulsa strips and let dry then I epoxied it to the four corners of the
L.G. block.. I did not go very high on the wing side of the block, But on
the firewall side I went up pass the lite ply that the bottom of the tank
sits on and also added more epoxy around the block.. It's pretty strong
now... I've had the plane drop on the gear from about a foot and a half
from a dead stick and the gear stayed on... I think it was Gary and
maybe CeeGee that added pushrods??? from the wing opening glued
to the block and out through the ramp under the engine compartment??
But you'd have to find the post to be sure, It's just a few pages back I
think....

I'm letting the glue dry now on my profile before putting the cover back
on... It'll be good to go for the A.M.




Evil Homer 05-27-2005 03:09 PM

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I use plastic bolts through my undercarridge, still breaks the bolts on the hard landing but better than having to fix the whole block, most of the time you can get the bolts out at the field, replace them and carry on flying

gjeffers 05-27-2005 05:14 PM

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looks very similar to other pics,at least there consistant in comming apart and easy to fix, i think they call it "landing block crock"[&:] just use lots of 30 min epoxy, that will help;)

Barry Cazier 05-27-2005 05:24 PM

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:)v_twin1K. You are the first one to break the landing gear on a UCD. I've not heard of anyone doing that before.
Thanks,
Barry

SPUD37 05-27-2005 06:03 PM

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Hey V_twin,

I used some left over push-rod through some holes I drilled from the wing saddle side. Roughed them up with some sand paper ,rolled them in epoxy ,& pushed them in. Epoxy the heck out of it in the fuel compartment and should hold up fine.

Hey Raideron,

Just send that prop on over to Barry so he can sew it together for ya !! No need to waist a good prop.

Guys, I took the time to look it up in the Websters Hong-guol dictionary I picked up in Korea:
wing wong is when the wing is attached to the A/C wong
wing wack is what Raideron did with his profile
wing wok is what my UCD does when I try to harrier
wing warf is what Gjeffers has

Well went out today and got a couple more flights in on the UCD. Just a slight breeze out of the W.. Hovers are still 40 feet up and only about 10-20 seconds, but feeling more solid. Did some invert spins to upright spins, that looks pretty cool. Still working on the high alpha harriers, just can't seem to get into a groove. The 635's are doing great in the wings, probably have to upgrade to those thru-out soon, I need to go to the heim joints soon as well. All in all a great day, planes in one piece, and some learning curve done.

See ya guys, SPUD37's out...........

raideron 05-27-2005 06:42 PM

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Hey Spud.... Dang it.... I completely forgot about Barry's service*&^(#!
Now I have to spend more money...

Hey I told ya"ll Barry and CeeGee was a bit off on the definition... Close
but no fortune cookie... Man Spud those dictionaries do come in handy!!
Thanks for clearing that up:D..... And it's nice to have a Good Day....

Barry Cazier 05-27-2005 10:00 PM

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:)I'm gonna fly tommorrow.
thanks,
Barry

Sewerdude 05-27-2005 11:08 PM

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Thanks Barry for the info on my thread about the fuel problem with the Saito 100 on my new UCD 60, i'll give the loop in the fuel line a try when I set it up........These UCD planes must be popular!!!!!!!! JT

v_twin1k 05-28-2005 12:01 AM

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Thanks for all info with the LG fix. I was really surprised how easily it popped off. It seemed like the LG didn't even break the fall - it just slammed straight down onto the belly! I love it when a fix involves an excessive amount of epoxy! Hope to have it fixed tomorrow morning and airborne tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks again,
v_twin

gjeffers 05-28-2005 01:04 AM

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IM GONNA FLY TOMORROW TOOOOOOOO:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Barry Cazier 05-28-2005 07:38 AM

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:)JT. I see you found us. Welcome. You will have a blast with the UCD. They are great airplanes. This is a great thread too. The guys here are first class, honest, fun, clever, unique, all over the map, and have at least one thing in common. We fly UCDs. Hope you have a good stay.
Thanks,
Barry

rclement 05-28-2005 08:23 AM

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Darned wind............ I didn't get to fly my UCD yesterday due to excessive wind. I ended up flying my U.Stick all day and ended up with a dead stick. It came in short of the runway, into some tall grass. [X(] When I went to start it back up I found that the glow plug had burned out causing the dead stick [:-] so I changed it out and got ready to go up again. Well I blasted down the runway and got up about 20 ft. and it dead sticked again. [>:] This time it came in kind of hard and snapped the fuse in half. [&o] On looking it over I found that the fuel clunk had apparently jammed forward from the first crash and it caused the second fuse destroying crash. Rats!! Now I gotta come up with a new fuse.............or plane, or something.......[:@] Talk about wing wong..........

Sewerdude 05-28-2005 08:30 AM

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Dang its gonna take me a week to read all the post! LOL. Anyway, where can I find a Cline regulator. I checked Tower ,no luck. By the way I had posted a this question on another forum, so here it is
I just got my UCD 60 and I'm about ready to assemble. I know I want to put in a Saito 100 as alot of you guys on have in the past. Seems like a great setup. Anyway, could you point me in the right direction on prop choice? Was thinking maybe a 15x4 or a 16x4. Also, is there any mods I should do to the UCD since I'm getting ready to assemble, nows the time to do it.
I like the idea of just looping the fuel line to stop the excess of the fuel as Barry said. But have any of you guys with the UCD 60 and the Saito 100 had any problems with the low end, as in cutting out at idol. I dont need any low level deadsticks on the maiden. Let me know whats the best route to go with the Saito 100. Thanks, JT

gjeffers 05-28-2005 08:31 AM

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oh noooooo, not again,sorry to hear CeeGee[:@], im walking out the door to go fly before the winds get here, i looked at the storm on intelacast and the winds will be here this afternoon so i got to go this morning, looks good now:D i know all about fuse abuse and hope i can avoid that;)gotta go fly now!

here is the link to the cline JT

http://www.billsroom.com/pcfs/produc...fs_details.htm

JT, did you see the pics ot the other site i left you?

Sewerdude 05-28-2005 08:40 AM

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Yeap saw it ,Thanks gjeffers......Your right, 60 bucks for the Cline isnt cheap! JT

raideron 05-28-2005 12:55 PM

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CeeGee... Sorry about your wing wong:-(..... I had that happen to
me once(clunk stuck foward of tank) So I now shake the plane
slightly before putting it on the table and listen to the clunk sliding
around... More so after a mishap... I now use a piece of brass tubing
between the tank inlet and the clunk so the line cannot move forward.

Great Day at the field:-))))) Made even better, by not touching the tail..

I may fly again tomorrow.... But the wind may stop me.....

Have a Great Holiday Weekend People!!!

SPUD37 05-28-2005 02:32 PM

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Hey CeeGee,
Wouldn't that be clunk wong? Sorry to hear about the break. Maybe Barry can sew it together. I'm working all weekend so no flying here. Have a great holiday fellers & remember those fallen vets.

SPUD37's out...................

gjeffers 05-28-2005 02:50 PM

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salute

EL TEMUCANO 05-28-2005 03:56 PM

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ON THE WEEK WHEN I AM IN MY JOB IN MY OFICE, I LOOK OUT SIDE AND SOME TIMES I CAN LOOK THE SUN, SOME CLOUDS AND BLUE SKY,,,,,,,, BUT NOW IS WEEKEND AND ALL THE DAY AND THE NIGHT IISSS RAINY - RAINYYY..................

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Barry Cazier 05-28-2005 05:50 PM

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:)CEEGEE. Sorry!!!! The Ultra Sticks are right there with the UCDs. I love them. I had the same thing with a clunk. What Raideron said. Works. Went flying today, first time since I was in the box. Fly a lot. Well, at least for me. UCD46 still not ready. Had to make DO with 60. Didn't quite tail touch but did get to within 10' of ground. Was able to hover good. Very still. That's fun. Flew 8 - 13 minute flights. Weather was almost perfect 75-80 and zero wind. Almost didn't know what to do. Anyways, had a great day. No crashes and lots of fun. Will fly again on Monday. Looking forward to it. Maybe even have 46 ready. I'm that close. Have a great Memorial Day weekend and drive safe.
Thanks,
Barry

sctcrash 05-28-2005 07:48 PM

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Aaaahhh, this week was the best day yet this year. Well atleast since I got the UCD. Man I love this plane. And man do I need MORE POWER!!! I also need to start moving the CG back a bit. After the inverted mishap with the Somethin Extra i needed to build my confidence back up.

With the 46 ax and where i have the cg i can get it to hover, but not as longs as i like, and i dont have the pull out power i need. I tried a low hover today and it almost caused a tail first vertical landing.

A guy at the field maidened his Fokker triplane today. He built it from a kit, not sure what kind, but he did a great job. He was as white as a sheet before he got it in the air.

Ahh, gotta love great days at the field.

rclement 05-28-2005 08:08 PM

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Thanks guys for all the condolences. Gjeffers, that "fuse abuse" line still has me laughing. :D That U.Stick is just my trainer plane in a sence now. If I can't get out there 3 times a week I just want to have something that I don't have much into. I'm thinking I'll just order a new fuse, graft the tail feathers in, and be set to go. Does anyone know of any hobby shops on line that take Paypal? I've got a ton of money in Paypal from some auction sales. It's burning a hole in my computer..... I mean, walet.

I'm not sure if I should repair the U. Stick or not. I'm also thinking of just getting a new knock around plane. Any suggestions??


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