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Barry Cazier 05-03-2005 10:59 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)Good job Cee Gee. Sounds like you have your problems solved.
Thanks,
Barry

kokamo 05-03-2005 11:03 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
just wanted to be post #2000

rclement 05-03-2005 11:25 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hey Kokamo, Have fun with your maiden tomorrow. Don't forget to check your control surface directions to make sure they're going the right. You could have an instructor maiden it if you are nervous about flying it for the first time. I've done that many times. Then he has just handed me the controls to fly it around and bring it in for a landing. Takes all the worry away. My latest UCD I maidened myself...........[8D] It felt good.............

rclement 05-03-2005 11:52 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 

Good job Cee Gee. Sounds like you have your problems solved.
Thanks,
Barry
Thanks Barry. It feels good to be in the norm again with this plane. :D It's weird when I can't fly it due to some goofball problem.

kokamo 05-04-2005 12:00 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
CeeGee, I can't hardly wait to feel that gooooood feelin'. Hope it's not a bad feelin'. I was just looking at the weather forecast for tomorrow and it's at about 80% chance of thunderstorms. Too bad it's my day off tomorrow and it'll be the only chance this week. That SUX!!!! Oh well. Like I said in an earlier post, I got all summer to maiden this thing. Man, I was out in the shop this afternoon cleaning up my HPI Savage monster truck and decided to check the control surface directions on the UCD .... everything was going the right way. I double checked it again just to be sure. I guess you can never check too much hu? I (myself), (me), (NOBODY BUT ME) will be maidening this UCD. I had a problem with the last guy that maidened my last one, lets just say it didn't land in one peice. PM and I'll splain it to ya.

ANYWAYS, wish me luck, I may need it to get the rain out and away from the feild. Our feild is in sort of a low lying area and when it just barely rains, it floods the feild. I flew my trainer out there right after a 10 minute moderate to heavy shower and I had to dodge huge puddles. I ended up landing in one of them and flooded out the engine after the plane flipped over and landed in about 4" of water. That was a horrible day. Didn't hurt anything tho.

Sees ya!

Joe

rclement 05-04-2005 01:46 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Kokamo, The UCD is a very easy plane to fly. Just to make it as fool proof as possible here's some help. Go on a no wind or very light wind day, make sure your engine is running flawlessly, (you don't want any deadsticks on take off), keep your throws on low rates, (at least at first), make sure your idle isn't too high or you'll have a hard time landing it, (it really likes to float up), get it up in the air in a gradual climb and get up high enough to trim it out, then just go for it. [8D] Once you get it flying you won't believe how fun it is.................:D:)[8D]

gjeffers 05-04-2005 05:20 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Darn Wind[:@] just wanted to be post 2005

Barry Cazier 05-04-2005 07:34 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)Ha! Secretly I wanted to be the one that posted 2006. That is, afterall, a lucky number.
Thanks,
Barry

Liberator 05-04-2005 07:40 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
I wanted to be like James Bond.

But I digress. Gonna build a Fokker D-1..how do ya think that will 3D?

Tom

raideron 05-04-2005 09:18 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Gary... It was good here from sunup tp about 10:30 ;)
Maybe I better get a timer or use the one on the radio, ran
out of fuel again on my fourth flight [:@] .... Just got her
over the fence and she dropped into the weeds. But all
stayed in one piece:-) Who said the landing gear was
weak:D
I myself like 8269.... So how about some help guys:)

gjeffers 05-04-2005 09:40 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
im opening the gate on the back fourty right now Ron, sorry but this wind will be there tomorrow, i might be off tomorrow if it rains, that screws up my weekend, Brock (my son) will be here fri to mount his saito 91 and break it in so maybe he will be able to fly sat, if it dond blow. my 100 flys 9min easy and when i put the 11oz tank in fri i should go to 12 min.i always use a timer because when im towards the end im always low and inverted and if i run out it might scare me[sm=eek.gif]

SPUD37 05-04-2005 09:42 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
DR1 well thats a thought. You have the ele & rud for it. Your going to have to run full span ail that are at least 25% of the cord of the wing[ on all three wings ]. You know it just might work. Might have to find some depron & make a foamie DR1 to see if it will work. Who's with us ? We can start a 3D flying circus. I'm in , sign me up coach.
On second thought, I just want my 15-4's a tru-turn & some clear air for my UCD.

SPUD37 is off high right

rclement 05-04-2005 09:44 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Raideron, Did you mention earlier in the thread that you downloaded UCD for AFP? I downloaded the file but it didn't work. I didn't see a waive file with it so I wasn't sure if that was the problem or not. :eek:

Heading towards 8269

kokamo 05-04-2005 10:40 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Well things didn't go as planned today. I needed to get tags for the new truck, no problem, went to the tax office to get the title transfered, they wanted a green slip from the inspection station. So I went to get it inspected....just my luck, wouldent pass cause someone took off the catalityc converter....sooo... I set up an appointment with the exhaust shop and was there until about 5:30, by then the winds were picking up and I didnt want to have anything to do with that. Sorry to go on and on but my day went totally oposite of what I wanted. So maybe this sunday I might be able to squeeze somthing in. Now that I think about it, I might be able to do somthing friday morning hmmmmmmm............ I'll keep ya posted.

CeeGee......I have realflight G2......is that what you are trying to get a UCD file for? Lemmie know, I want one too!

Laters, Joe

SPUD37 05-04-2005 10:43 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Okay so here is the good stuff. Just got off the line with tower & now I'm in the wait for my 2" aluminiummmmm spinner& some 15-4W apc's. So now I'm the one waiting for the big brown truck.

SPUD37's feet dry

raideron 05-05-2005 01:40 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hey CeeGee... Yea, I have the UCD on AFP.. I have not tried it
for a while, I'm not sure if it had sound, But it worked... At times
I'm not to good on this puter, but I can try to send it to you if
you like, It's about 11megs...

hockeyrules99 05-05-2005 06:43 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Seems like that plane of yours just does'nt want to get madiened eh? I went out this morning and flew the yak profile ..first good test for it ..its just as fun as the UCD ..anybody looking to build one ..check em out ..I think they make an ARF now as well...
Koko ..Hopefully you'll get some flying in on Friday..we're all waiting your report
John

hockeyrules99 05-05-2005 06:45 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Check out this vid...kinda sad [&o]

Bill Hempel's 50% Edge
CRASH!


http://www.blaineaustin.com/videos.htm

Liberator 05-05-2005 10:11 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Spud,

or, just extend the ailerons to all three wings to make up for the surface needed. There should be enough lift on those wings. I am going to build it up in a fierce fashion and see if I can't get it to do a few things.

Tom

raideron 05-05-2005 12:25 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hi again CeeGee, Not sure if you were looking at RC-sim, I saw
a few skins for the UCD But you need the main program.. I'm
not sure but I think I got it here:

http://www.aeroflypro.com/afpdownloa...6/ucando46.zip

Hope it works...

hockeyrules99... Which Yak profile did you get?? I always wanted a E.F.
profile, (got tired of waiting) Or one from OMP... But never got one...
But now putting together one from Kangke it's a Sukhio SU-26 3D ARF....
Got a great price on it... So I got it to play a bit lower:-)
Yeah that crash is sad, any crash puts a hurt on you... But something like
that..... But there all numbered, just the way it is.... If people thinks not,
they better find another hobby.... Because it Will happen, You just never
know when:-(... Have a Great Day people:-)
As Gary said..... Darn Wind.......

rclement 05-05-2005 12:51 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 

ORIGINAL: hockeyrules99

Check out this vid...kinda sad [&o]

Bill Hempel's 50% Edge
CRASH!


http://www.blaineaustin.com/videos.htm
Keeps the epoxy manufactures in business.........I mean, you glue a chair leg together with that stuff or a bowling ball and your pretty much done for life. But an airplane, not gunna stay that way for long. Some people just get more miles out of their epoxy than others.........:eek:

Raideron, Thanks for the link. I think that's the one I tried out but I'll try it again when I get home.........[8D]
I gotta fly the UCD again soon. My thumbs are starting to feel weird............... Hey!! maybe tonight.........[X(]

SPUD37 05-05-2005 02:13 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Liberator,
Send some pics when you get it done. I'd like to see that.

Thanks Shawn

Hey look guys I got post 2020

Gears down and locked......Flaps set.......Indicators checked......

hockeyrules99 05-05-2005 04:28 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Raid, I built the 47" OMP yak over the winter ...I flew it once then it got cold here again ...so I built the U can do and took the receiver out of the yak and put it in the UCD (TEMP) yeah well it did'nt turn out to be temp lol so I picked up a new receiver last week and flew it ...it weighs in at 4lbs 10 oz .. and I'm on the heavy side with the 50 sx however WOW! no shortage of vertical power ...check em out ..Just looking at a boxxer now...we'll see
John

raideron 05-05-2005 05:31 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hey John... I hear that's a great profile... I almost got that one a while
back while waiting for the E.F. Yak proflie to come in... But I'm not to
sure on Kits:-(, So I really wanted the EF model, OMP did not have
ARF's at that time.. I guess I'm glad I did not get the kit, I have been
messing with this Kangke ARF and I'm not getting to much done... I'm
always over thinking things, So nothing gets done.... I called Kangke
twice now because they say to C.A. the wing on without taking the
covering off in that area... Well they won, That's the way I'm doing it
because they said if I have a wing failure and the covering was
removed the model will not be replaced... So we'll see.... I wanted to
use a YS-63, then I was looking at a 50SX also, But I'll just try my
46FX/tower muffler first.. Anyway have fun!!.... Back to C.A.ing my
wing over the covering..... Still does not seem right:-(

sctcrash 05-05-2005 08:09 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
My UCANDO is here!!

So now i have a few more questions. My Somethin Extra bit the dust last week so I am planeless. This is the second week of the season here and I am dying to fly. I need to run to the hobby store tomorrow, but none of the LHS's around here are very good. I need to decide how to set up my servos.

I have a Futaba 6exa with th3 4.8 battery, 4 3004 ball bearing servos and some spare s3003s laying around. I figured i could use a 3003 on the Throttle. That leaves me with 4 s3004s and 1 3003(non ballbearing). I dont know if i could find a 90 oz servo around here (can drive an hour to maybe get one) and dont know if my wallet can afford one.

3004s and 3003s both show 44 oz with the 4.8 or 57 with the 6.0

Should I:
1. Get a 90 oz Servo no matter what i have to do.
2. Put 2 3003s on the elevator and use 1 of the 3004s for the rudder.
3. Put a 3003 on the rudder (I am really just going to be sport flying it for now).
4. Any combination, but get a 6.0 V battery to get more torque.

Also i am going to try and get the 6exa to do the Ailevator so i dont need a reversing y harness, will this work, best method?

If i am going to fly Saturday i need to go to the hobby store tomorrow, any help will be greatly appreciated.

EL TEMUCANO 05-05-2005 08:48 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
SCTCRASH

I read a lot of forums and now spcially thes about u can do .46 .

I read your configuration of a .46 plane and i don´t understand the excess of all :
servos 90 oz
6 volts for more power on the servos
on .46 put a .90

I think Great plane design thes .46 to a light fly.´if any one want to have more power maibe have to buy U CAN DO .60. Because if i put more weight on UCD .46, i change wing load and then i change all the flying type of thes plane. I read guys break the fire wall--break the landing gear---- break elevator-----have fluter because they want have a fast plane and buy a UCD .46....................

I have a UCD .46 and I put .46 on. I have S.T. .60 in a box but a buy thes plane because i have a very light wing load and that make thes plane, a very good 3D.

Well, thas its my think about,:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

sorry my english[:@][&:][:'(][>:][&o]:eek:

Sergio

hockeyrules99 05-05-2005 09:05 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
sctcrash...for what its worth I would recommend a 90 oz in servo for rudder...I would also recommend running 6 volt battery pack..especially if your using digitals ...digitals use tremendous amounts of power over standard...the rudder is a very large control surface, it needs lots of power to drive it properly and without slop..follow great planes suggestions in the manual ..this plane comes out to right around 6 lbs, a 46 engine will not do it justice..power to weight just is'nt there..don't get me wrong it will fly with a 46 but it would be lacking for my liking ..and one other thing ...make sure you check the mechanical advantage of the the servo arms..if you don't get enough throw with standard arms don't move the linkage into the closest hole on the control surface(horn)..I think that some of the rudder troubles have been a high torque servo on the rudder and set in as close as possible to the control surface and the servo is ripping the rudder out ...(MTC) if you don't have enough throw buy longer arms! Dubro makes extra longs for pretty much all servos manuf.

good luck with build! You'll love it ..just like the rest of us !

hockeyrules99 05-05-2005 09:08 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
CA over covering?? hhmmm what happens if ...aahhh you know what I'm going to say ..lol the yak kit went together really well ...really starting to think boxxer lol just not sure if i have the time..good luck with Kange !!

goldenclan 05-05-2005 09:23 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
sctchrash, if all you have is a 46 size engine, then by all means use it. As for the servos, go with a high torque on the rudder, you will need it when you start doing any thing but just flying the pattern. If you read back thru the posts, you will find alot of tips to help out with your build. I think that the 6exa is a very good raido, but it is limited with some of the function. You should be able to set up the plane with the dual aeilerons on 1 and 6, and I think that you will need to turn on the flaperon function on the raido also. If you can swing the cash, get a servo reversor for the elevator. The 6exa won't be able to get it to work very well. Just remember to mind the throws on the control surfaces. For my first flights I had them set lower than the low rates and set up the dual rates so that on high rates, it was at the low (Great planes recommened) settings. Helps to get used to it. Try to get the CG around the 5 inch mark. the 6 volt batt is a good choice. Just remember, some times right after charging the batt, some servos will jitter a bit but is should go away. It happens with mine. I just use a batt checker with a load on it for about 15 to 20 seconds and it solved the problem with mine.

gjeffers 05-05-2005 09:43 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
ok ill start a firestorm, i fly mine kinda hard and all i use are jr 537s with 42 0z,;) i think, hell i used 537s on my 60 too[X(] and it did everything i wanted it to, i guess if you got the extra $ get some 90 oz but i think there a wast,not trying to heat anybody up but these are just my expieriences,go with the 44oz, they will work fine.
i promise to eat my words if anything ever happens and post picks of it too:D

hockeyrules99 05-05-2005 09:44 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
no problems gjeffers? no stripped gears ? notta? thats good to know..I always overkill my setups I think anyway ..

I hope you never have to eat your words!! too darn heartbreaking when it goes in ...makes you want to stop flying ..at least until tommorow ..

canonball 05-05-2005 09:53 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
I am runing a Saito 100 in my you can do 46 with 51x4 apc but I am running the cheapest servoes I can get 3003 futaba on everything. this is the only plane I have been able to do a vertical climing flat spin and a cartwheel.I just did 3 cart wheels in a row. Nife edge is still hard it reqiers aleron and elavator input.this power is to editing I don't what to fly any thing else:D

EL TEMUCANO 05-05-2005 10:03 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, I THINK SCTCRASH UNDERSTAND........MMMMM YES...

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

gjeffers 05-05-2005 10:05 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
alright john you got me[&:]i did break a tooth on my 60 on a 537 that was on my 60 size but it landed so good anyways i really didnt think about it much and bought a gear set and replaced it,but i think the cause of that was the mechanical advantage issue:eek:i still feel confidend with the 537s[8D]

goldenclan 05-05-2005 10:05 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hey no fires started here, he asked for suggestions, and he is getting them, that is what the fourm is about guys. Every body does their own thing that works for them. This has to be the most civil fourm that I have been involved with so far. Every body adds alitte bit to it with each post. So lets keep the Ideas going and lets have some fun with these darm plastic coated stick bags[&:][&:][&:][&:][&:]

gjeffers 05-05-2005 10:12 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
EL ****CANO,the saito 100 only weighs 21oz and is great engine for 46 because i only use 3/4 the fuel i used on my 60 size and i like go up fast,(NOT DOWN):D

raideron 05-05-2005 10:23 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hi all, My servos are on six volts, 57oz/in and the rudder 80oz/in
and a 40oz on the throttle.. I think a 57oz would have worked on
the rudder since I can't give it full throws on the rudder because
of way too much coupling then... so no K.E. loops for me, I can
K.E. it pretty good, I almost have all the elev. coupleing mixed
out, but can't seem to get the Ail. just right... Anyway that's my
story and I'm sticking to it:-)

hockeyrules99... That's what I told Kangke, But that's what they
said.... So Maybe I'll see how it goes this weekend.....

EL TEMUCANO 05-05-2005 10:35 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
NOT DOWN,,,,,,, Congratulations,,,, thats very nice.......

hey mans,,,,, all we are glad with our planes and that is....... we can write all our experiences but dont hurt to anybody.....

so, don´t worry,,,, be happy.

i´m happy i´m playing.... on the week i write hear and on weekend i fly,,,,, i´m happy

canonball 05-05-2005 10:45 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
yes 6 volt is the only way to go all my u can do's are on 6volt. but wate what about more volts yes i did try it whith lithium ion 2 cell no realator the futaba 148 & 3003 loved it thay moved like degitels servos but fma&high tek did'not like it the jumped all over I am going to try it in A plane and see how long the servos last[>:]


remeber if a little is good more is better !!!!!!!!!!!:D

Barry Cazier 05-05-2005 10:49 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)My advice on servos is to make sure when you move the right stick to the right that the right aileron goes up...or is that down? Maybe that 's why I'm doing all that crashing.
Thanks,
Barry


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