My are both IC. The ones in the above pics, the red/blue/white/yellow ones are both electric. using a Plett xtra 30-10, and the big Tanic Packs (3 lbs!!!) and I'm still waiting on a flying weight. but with everything installed except 3 servos and the radio, it weighed 9 lbs 6 ozs WITH the 3 lb batteries in it. It still has some minor stuff to do to it, but I know for a fact it should be well under 11 lbs.....

-Mike