well i just finished putting together what i believe THE most aggravating plane i have ever put together which was a great planes matt chapman cap 580.the instructions suck they give you a close proximity pic of the build.not to mention it tells you to do one thing then 3 pages later if you look at the pic.it will be totally opposite.i bought this plane thinking "easy" HAH! what a joke even if you dont glue your fingers to the fuse good luck on lining up all the horiz and vert pieces...then the best part came,FLYING IT!! i went outside did a control check give it a little throttle gently tossed it in the air and it was great it flew wonderfully minus the touch controls but im used to that i flew it around a little bit getting it trimmed out then i decided to bring it down for a check.<mistake> as soon as it touched down on the road it nose dived and broke the prop.ripped the wheel pants off it and the landing gear CF rod ripped the leading edge of the wing like a wet paper bag.but anyhow i just thought i would post my experiences on here about the flatout plane.i had read some posts on here about them and there was mixed emotions so i figured well ill give it a try i cant be too bad.well i was wrong and now im off to try to figure out how to repair the LE of the wing where the can opener got it lol oh well all that glue and activator and gluing fingers are almost already down the drain.........................................