Thanks Steve. You are right. ARF's are best in the beginning, and even those don't eliminate the shakes. New pilots need to work through that initial fear and anxiety before putting a boat load of effort into their building. A good instructor makes all the difference too. When I started flying, there were no ARF's. I built from scratch or from kits. They are almost too economical now to not buy them. There are advantages to building kits, and the main one is personalization. I don't like to go flying and everyone's plane looks the same.