yo stickbuilder...i am totally bummed that your other thread was shut down. i was getting ready to address some of your opponents. been reading it for a few days to see what more developed, then just checked it..and its closed. i support you 110% in what you had to offer about poor quality and lack of concern by the manufacturers to take corrective steps. that thread also proved to me that still today...the p.t. barnum theory lives stronger than ever. i also commend you for having the courage and backbone to tell it like it really is...and not like product review authors in some of the model magazines. keep up the teriffic work!!!