11.5 lbs? Is that right? I was afraid of that based on what I'd heard from Europe a while back. I'm sure you can bring it in under weight with a few tweaks, it's just a shame it's not lighter. A HUGE 2 meter plane CAN be built in the mid to low 9s if wanted but it takes a lot of attention to do so. Not sure mass production would work at those weights, but they seem to have the Icepoint figured out as far as weight. But it's not really that big, and neither is (was) the Focus.

The low stab is old school tech. The Typhoon 2000 was like that. It had very little mixing on knife edge, didn't pull much in a down line, but took an act of god to snap and spin because of over 1200 squares of wing and the wierd angles it needed to fly right. It also used a full degree of positive in the wing and some wild thrust angles. As much as 5 degrees of right to make it track right vertically. I changed a lot when I did the "Tempest" version, and it was much better in a lot of respects, but it was really a bandaid on a gunshot wound to the head. The patterns changed, and the planes had to follow.

The Tojiero was actually designed a few years ago but was never imported to the US. I'm really really curious as to how this project turns out, and I'm sure Bob will give us the whole picture. More than what it weighs, I'm interested in how it flies.

And no, I don't think it'd make weight with electric unless you used a foamie battery

-Mike