to fgivitsum second what you say i have two jet central turbine, you will see my falcon in action tomorrow at blackpool jet meeting, it punches my super reaper round the sky to the point i have to hold back, i like the turbines so much i have orded a super bee on the strenght and reliabilty off the others i own i think i can give one off the best unbiased opinion in these turbines the super eagle has cought me out a few times with the power all my jet central turbine give well over the thrust in the specs so i have to say well done to jet central team keep up the good work best regards jetman